RE: [Uri-review] Fwd: Re: Informational RFC to be: draft-paskin-doi-uri-03.txt (updated from -02.txt)
"Larry Masinter" <LMM@acm.org> Tue, 20 May 2003 16:02 UTC
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From: Larry Masinter <LMM@acm.org>
To: 'Tim Kindberg' <timothy@hpl.hp.com>, "'Hammond, Tony (ELSLON)'" <T.Hammond@elsevier.com>
Cc: hardie@qualcomm.com, uri-review@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Uri-review] Fwd: Re: Informational RFC to be: draft-paskin-doi-uri-03.txt (updated from -02.txt)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 09:03:38 -0700
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I disagree with your characterization of my position; I think that URI schemes should be "well defined". Let me try to bring this back to first principles: No one needs the IETF to publish a document any more. Anyone can take a specification, publish it on their web site, take out an ad in the New York Times or the CACM, and get everyone else in the world to implement their specification. Having something in funny RFC ASCII instead of a nice easy-to-read format doesn't help, really. So what's the point of the IETF publishing anything? The publication by the IETF must signify some kind of review, that the document meets some kind of standard? What is that standard? Well, RFC 2026 is a little fuzzy, but in general, IETF publications are expected to meet some kind of engineering (the E in IETF) review. I think that includes the possibility that anyone in the world can read an RFC, following the references, if necessary, and figure out how to implement (E again) the protocol (this is the "Internet" ETF after all) specified in the document. And the implementation is expected, to some level, to be reasonably easy to interpret, that the technology to implement it is well-known, readily-available. These are hard qualities to come up with an absolute measure of, so we're left to 'engineering judgment', and 'rough consensus' of engineering judgment at that. We ask a bunch of engineers who don't have a vested interest in the document to judge whether it meets the fuzzy criteria. This mailing list "uri-review" was set up to run those kinds of reviews. And I volunteer my time (since it doesn't have much of anything to do with my day job) to give my opinion. So, there you have it. If your management asked you "hey, go implement this 'doi' scheme!", could you do it? With the information in, or referenced by, draft-paskin-doi-uri-03.txt? Is it clear what it means? Or how you would go about getting a DOI if you needed one? Or figuring out what one pointed to if you got one? I'd appreciate your engineering review of draft-paskin-doi-uri-03.txt against general IETF principles. Larry -- http://larry.masinter.net _______________________________________________ Uri-review mailing list Uri-review@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/uri-review
- RE: [Uri-review] Fwd: Re: Informational RFC to be… Hammond, Tony (ELSLON)
- RE: [Uri-review] Fwd: Re: Informational RFC to be… Larry Masinter
- RE: [Uri-review] Fwd: Re: Informational RFC to be… Tim Kindberg
- RE: [Uri-review] Fwd: Re: Informational RFC to be… Larry Masinter