Re: [Uri-review] URI scheme registration request

Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 01 December 2015 16:01 UTC

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 7:07 PM, John Wason <wason@wasontech.com> wrote:

> Are there any more questions about this request?  I have not received any
> replies.
>
>
​Hi John,​

​I think this is sufficient for provisional registration.  Hopefully some
other folks can chime in as well.

regards,

Ted​



> On 11/14/2015 6:37 PM, Dave Thaler wrote:
>
> Short answer: unfortunately no
>
>
>
> This was the subject of issue #16:
>
> <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/appsawg/trac/ticket/16>
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/appsawg/trac/ticket/16
>
>
>
> It was discussed at IETF 89 and then again at IETF 90. In both cases, and
> as confirmed on the list,
>
> the consensus of the WG was to not allow a notion of wildcards.   Instead
> you have to individually
>
> register each such scheme.  I see “svn+ssh” is not currently registered,
> but it sounds like it ought to be.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> *From:* John Wason [mailto:wason@wasontech.com <wason@wasontech.com>]
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 2:21 PM
> *To:* Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com> <dthaler@microsoft.com>; Roy T.
> Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com> <fielding@gbiv.com>
> *Cc:* uri-review@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Uri-review] URI scheme registration request
>
>
>
> Is it possible to register a "wildcard" or have an understanding that the
> scheme can be appended with the transport type?  Subversion uses "svn+ssh"
> to specify an ssh tunnel.  This format seems to be used occasionally in
> practice.  Because the different transports can point to completely
> different resources on the same host I am not sure having the transport in
> the query portion is the correct solution.
>
> On 11/14/2015 3:07 PM, Dave Thaler wrote:
>
> Roy T. Fielding wrote:
>
> > A URI scheme should define what it names and how that naming maps to
> the URI syntax.
>
> > There is nothing wrong with using separate schemes for different
> transports if those transports
>
> > are essential parts of the name (e.g., if something named Fred at
> TCP:80 is different from something
>
> > named Fred at UDP:89898).  (I prefer using dots, like rr.tcp and rr.udp
> and rr.tcp.tls.)
>
>
>
> Careful… RFC 7595 states:
>
>    Furthermore, to prevent collisions with private-use scheme names, new
>
>    scheme names registered MUST NOT contain a "." unless actually
>
>    constructed from a reversed domain name.
>
>
>
> So rr.tcp should only be done if you register rr as a TLD, and since rr is
> 2 letters, it’s reserved for a country code.
>
>
>
> Dave
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