Re: [Uri-review] URI scheme registration request

John Wason <wason@wasontech.com> Tue, 24 November 2015 02:30 UTC

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I sent the requested information on the URI usage but I think it may 
have bounced because it was too large.  I have put the text on pastebin 
so it can be reviewed. I can send the word document if someone needs a 
permanent copy but it is too large for the list.

http://pastebin.com/4s4e6CjY

     -Dr. Wason

On 11/14/2015 6:37 PM, Dave Thaler wrote:
>
> Short answer: unfortunately no
>
> This was the subject of issue #16:
>
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/appsawg/trac/ticket/16
>
> It was discussed at IETF 89 and then again at IETF 90. In both cases, 
> and as confirmed on the list,
>
> the consensus of the WG was to not allow a notion of wildcards.   
> Instead you have to individually
>
> register each such scheme.  I see “svn+ssh” is not currently 
> registered, but it sounds like it ought to be.
>
> Dave
>
> *From:*John Wason [mailto:wason@wasontech.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 2:21 PM
> *To:* Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>; Roy T. Fielding 
> <fielding@gbiv.com>
> *Cc:* uri-review@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Uri-review] URI scheme registration request
>
> Is it possible to register a "wildcard" or have an understanding that 
> the scheme can be appended with the transport type?  Subversion uses 
> "svn+ssh" to specify an ssh tunnel.  This format seems to be used 
> occasionally in practice.  Because the different transports can point 
> to completely different resources on the same host I am not sure 
> having the transport in the query portion is the correct solution.
>
> On 11/14/2015 3:07 PM, Dave Thaler wrote:
>
>     Roy T. Fielding wrote:
>
>     >A URI scheme should define what it names and how that naming maps
>     to the URI syntax.
>
>     >There is nothing wrong with using separate schemes for different
>     transports if those transports
>
>     >are essential parts of the name (e.g., if something named Fred at
>     TCP:80 is different from something
>
>     >named Fred at UDP:89898).  (I prefer using dots, like rr.tcp and
>     rr.udp and rr.tcp.tls.)
>
>     Careful… RFC 7595 states:
>
>        Furthermore, to prevent collisions with private-use scheme
>     names, new
>
>        scheme names registered MUST NOT contain a "." unless actually
>
>        constructed from a reversed domain name.
>
>     So rr.tcp should only be done if you register rr as a TLD, and
>     since rr is 2 letters, it’s reserved for a country code.
>
>     Dave
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> John Wason, Ph.D.
> Wason Technology, LLC
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John Wason, Ph.D.
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