[Uri-review] [IANA #1271079] Re: Registration of dhttp Schema name (uri-schemes)
Sabrina Tanamal via RT <iana-issues@iana.org> Fri, 28 April 2023 16:45 UTC
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Hi Graham, Just following up on this thread. Are there any actions required from IANA? Thanks, Sabrina Tanamal Lead IANA Services Specialist On Thu Apr 20 10:34:36 2023, GK@ninebynine.org wrote: > I see two possible ways forward: > > 1. There is an "escape hatch" clause in the registration procedure > that allows > the IESG to be final arbiter of any contentious registration. > > 2. As scheme reviewer, I can request a note be added to the registry > entry > pointing out that the scheme is contentious, the reasons why, and as > such is NOT > RECOMMENDED for use on the open Internet. I would be reluctant to do > so on my > opinion alone, but I'm seeing sufficient concern expressed here for > that to be a > reasonable request. > > Personally, I think the latter is preferable, for reasons that Ted > mentions in a > later email. There are a number of provisionally registered schemes > that got > snuck in un-noticed before we set up the process of sending > notifications of > provisional registrations to this list (following the last London IETF > meeting), > and I'd be inclined to request a similar note be added to the 'web3' > scheme. > > #g > > > On 19/04/2023 10:18, Ted Hardie wrote: > > Hi Roy, > > > > The current list of requirements for provisionals is in RFC 7595, > > Section 4: > > > > The scheme name must meet the syntactic requirements ofSection 3.8. > > > > o There must not already be an entry with the same scheme name. > > In > > the unfortunate case that there are multiple, different uses of > > the same scheme name, the Designated Expert can approve a > > request > > to modify an existing entry to note the separate use. > > > > o Contact information identifying the person supplying the > > registration must be included. Previously unregistered schemes > > discovered in use can be registered by third parties (even if > > not > > on behalf of those who created the scheme). In this case, both > > the registering party and the scheme creator SHOULD be > > identified. > > > > o If no permanent, citable specification for the scheme > > definition > > is included, credible reasons for not providing it SHOULD be > > given. > > > > o The scheme definition SHOULD include clear security > > considerations > > (Section 3.7) or explain why a full security analysis is not > > available (e.g., in a third-party scheme registration). > > > > o If the scheme definition does not meet the guidelines laid out > > in > > Section 3, the differences and reasons SHOULD be noted. > > > > While it may be the case that using 'dhttp' implies something to > > humans about > > the relationship toother schemes, it meets the current test that > > "there must > > not already be an entry with the same scheme name". As you will no > > doubt > > recall, we loosened the registration of provisionals in this way > > because folks > > were minting URI schemes without registration and the risk of > > collision was > > getting worse as a result. > > > > I am not as clear, though, about whether this registration is > > intended to > > deprecate web3 (which is also a provisionally registered URI scheme) > > so that > > web3 could be marked historic. If that is the case, we could at > > least > > eliminate the alias scheme issue which you note below. > > > > Just my personal opinion, of course, > > > > Ted > > > > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 4:45 PM Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Is there a way that we can block provisional registrations that are > > > actively > > harmful? > > > > > > 1) this is abusing the existing http and https schemes; > > > 2) alias schemes are harmful, in general; and, > > > 3) web3 is a scam that we shouldn't make respectable by > > > association with HTTP. > > > > > > .....Roy > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Sabrina Tanamal via RT > > <iana-prot-param@iana.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Qi, > > > > > > > > We've added provisional URI scheme dhttp to the registry: > > > > > > > > https://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes/prov/dhttp > > > > > > > > Registry: https://www.iana.org/assignments/uri-schemes > > > > > > > > Per the designated expert for URI Schemes registry, we're also > > > > notifying > > the uri-review@ietf.org mailing list upon completing a provisional > > registration. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Sabrina Tanamal > > > > Lead IANA Services Specialist > > > > > > > > On Mon Apr 17 03:05:35 2023, qizhou@web3q.io wrote: > > > >> Hi Amanda, > > > >> > > > >> We would like to register dhttp:// schema with the following > > > >> information > > > >> > > > >> Schema name: dhttp > > > >> > > > >> Status: Provisional > > > >> > > > >> Applications/protocols that use this scheme: > > > >> > > > >> This schema dhttp:// is the alias of schema web3:// > > > >> > > > >> Contact: > > > >> > > > >> Qi Zhou > > > >> 55 E 3rd Ave, San Mateo, CA 94401 > > > >> mailto: qizhou@web3q.io > > > >> > > > >> Change controller: > > > >> > > > >> Qi Zhou > > > >> 55 E 3rd Ave, San Mateo, CA 94401 > > > >> mailto: qizhou@web3q.io > > > >> > > > >> References: > > > >> > > > >> A draft specification can be found at > > > >> https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-4804 (replacing web3:// with > > > >> dhttp://) > > > >> > > > >> Scheme syntax: > > > >> > > > >> "dhttp://" [userinfo "@"] contractName [":" chainid] path ["?" > > > >> query] > > > >> > > > >> Thanks! > > > >> > > > >> Best regards, > > > >> > > > >> - Qi > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Uri-review mailing list > > > > Uri-review@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/uri-review > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Uri-review mailing list > > > Uri-review@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/uri-review > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Uri-review mailing list > > Uri-review@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/uri-review
- [Uri-review] [IANA #1270959] Registration of dhtt… Sabrina Tanamal via RT
- Re: [Uri-review] [IANA #1270959] Registration of … Roy T. Fielding
- Re: [Uri-review] [IANA #1270959] Registration of … Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [Uri-review] [IANA #1270959] Registration of … Ted Hardie
- Re: [Uri-review] [IANA #1270959] Registration of … Roy T. Fielding
- Re: [Uri-review] [IANA #1270959] Registration of … Ted Hardie
- Re: [Uri-review] [IANA #1270959] Registration of … Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Uri-review] [IANA #1270959] Registration of … Graham Klyne
- [Uri-review] [IANA #1271079] Re: Registration of … Sabrina Tanamal via RT
- Re: [Uri-review] [IANA #1271079] Re: Registration… Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] [IANA #1271079] Re: Registration… Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [Uri-review] [IANA #1270959] Registration of … Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] [IANA #1270959] Registration of … Ted Hardie
- Re: [Uri-review] [IANA #1270959] Registration of … Julian Reschke
- Re: [Uri-review] [IANA #1270959] Registration of … Roy T. Fielding
- Re: [Uri-review] [IANA #1270959] Registration of … Graham Klyne
- Re: [Uri-review] [IANA #1271079] Registration of … Graham Klyne
- [Uri-review] [IANA #1271079] Re: Registration of … Amanda Baber via RT