Re: [urn] IANA repository ... draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bis-urn-reg-02
Alfred Hönes <ah@TR-Sys.de> Sun, 25 March 2012 21:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: [urn] IANA repository ... draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bis-urn-reg-02
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Leslie, thanks again for your feedback; see my remarks inline below. > Hi, > > Is this point in the document: Note to other readers: This is in Section 6, IANA Considerations. >> [[ NOTE: It would be preferable to restore the generic, most >> universally supported (HTML) form of the registry be identified by an >> implementation-neutral URL, as previously supported by IANA: >> <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces>. Yet, currently >> this URI and similar forms all resolve to an XML version. >> The content there should link to alternate forms (.xml, .txt), and >> those alternate versions should indicate the *other* versions; i.e., >> where the .txt version (currently only available at ftp.IANA.ORG) >> also says, "This registry is also available in XML and plain text >> formats.", it should better say: "This registry is also available in >> HTML and XML formats." Similarly, the XML form should point to the >> HTML and plain text forms. ]] > > actually a question for the URN document, or rather something for the > IESG/IAB to explain or take up with IANA? I.e., it seems to me that > this is a broader question of references to IANA registries, and not > just *this* reference to *an* IANA registry? > > Leslie. this Note is more or less the result of some frustration over - first having useful conversation with IANA and seeing things (of admittedly more general impact) improved -- at least for the URN Namespace IANA registry, - but several months later finding the improvements have been lost again. Having it somehow back in the draft again, I wanted to hand the I-D to IANA for a quick pre-evaluation (once some more issues in the I-D have been resolved), and this way an independent inquiry to IANA wrt the loss could be avoided. I agree that the topic is general. Personally having followed the consensus building regarding a few IANA registries during the last couple of years, I thought that the principle of a simple, media-neutral stable URI for IANA registries that resolves to the most versatile presentation form of the registry (i.e. [X]HTML) -- and from which the TXT and possible XML forms are linked -- was consensual between IANA and IETF leadership. Seeing the recent loss of the [X]HTML form of various registries and .txt forms only being available via FTP now might indeed be an indication that you are right that this should perhaps become a topic for IAB/IESG to discuss with IANA. > ... [snip] > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Reality: > Yours to discover." > -- ThinkingCat > Leslie Daigle > leslie@thinkingcat.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn Kind regards, Alfred. -- +------------------------+--------------------------------------------+ | TR-Sys Alfred Hoenes | Alfred Hoenes Dipl.-Math., Dipl.-Phys. | | Gerlinger Strasse 12 | Phone: (+49)7156/9635-0, Fax: -18 | | D-71254 Ditzingen | E-Mail: ah@TR-Sys.de | +------------------------+--------------------------------------------+
- [urn] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-urn… Alfred Hönes
- [urn] IANA repository Re: New Version Notificatio… Leslie Daigle
- Re: [urn] IANA repository Re: New Version Notific… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [urn] IANA repository ... draft-ietf-urnbis-r… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [urn] IANA repository ... draft-ietf-urnbis-r… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [urn] IANA repository Re: New Version Notific… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] IANA repository ... draft-ietf-urnbis-r… Peter Saint-Andre