Re: [urn] IANA repository ... draft-ietf-urnbis-rfc3406bis-urn-reg-02

Alfred Hönes <ah@TR-Sys.de> Sun, 25 March 2012 21:17 UTC

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Leslie,
thanks again for your feedback; see my remarks inline below.

> Hi,
>
> Is this point in the document:

Note to other readers:  This is in Section 6, IANA Considerations.

>>   [[ NOTE: It would be preferable to restore the generic, most
>>    universally supported (HTML) form of the registry be identified by an
>>    implementation-neutral URL, as previously supported by IANA:
>>    <http://www.iana.org/assignments/urn-namespaces>.  Yet, currently
>>    this URI and similar forms all resolve to an XML version.
>>    The content there should link to alternate forms (.xml, .txt), and
>>    those alternate versions should indicate the *other* versions; i.e.,
>>    where the .txt version (currently only available at ftp.IANA.ORG)
>>    also says, "This registry is also available in XML and plain text
>>    formats.", it should better say: "This registry is also available in
>>    HTML and XML formats."  Similarly, the XML form should point to the
>>    HTML and plain text forms. ]]
>
> actually a question for the URN document, or rather something for the
> IESG/IAB to explain or take up with IANA?  I.e., it seems to me that
> this is a broader question of references to IANA registries, and not
> just *this* reference to *an* IANA registry?
>
> Leslie.


this Note is more or less the result of some frustration over
- first having useful conversation with IANA and seeing things (of
  admittedly more general impact) improved -- at least for the
  URN Namespace IANA registry,
- but several months later finding the improvements have been lost
  again.

Having it somehow back in the draft again, I wanted to hand the I-D
to IANA for a quick pre-evaluation (once some more issues in the
I-D have been resolved), and this way an independent inquiry to IANA
wrt the loss could be avoided.

I agree that the topic is general.
Personally having followed the consensus building regarding a few
IANA registries during the last couple of years, I thought that the
principle of a simple, media-neutral stable URI for IANA registries
that resolves to the most versatile presentation form of the registry
(i.e. [X]HTML) -- and from which the TXT and possible XML forms are
linked -- was consensual between IANA and IETF leadership.
Seeing the recent loss of the [X]HTML form of various registries and
.txt forms only being available via FTP now might indeed be an
indication that you are right that this should perhaps become
a topic for IAB/IESG to discuss with IANA.


> ... [snip]
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Kind regards,
  Alfred.

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