Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs
worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Sun, 24 March 2019 22:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs
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The situation we are in as one of conflicing requirements: (1) the need for URNs to absolutely follow the standard (RFC 8141), and (2) the need for them to be human-convenient. One way to square this circle would be to define two forms which are in one-to-one correspondence: If it starts with "urn:", it is in URN format, and if it starts with "cts:" or "cite2:", it is in human-friendly format. For example, we could define these two strings to be equivalent: cts:greekLit:tlg5026.msA.hmt:1.2.lemma#μῆνις urn:cts:greekLit:tlg5026.msA.hmt:1.2.lemma@%CE%BC%E1%BF%86%CE%BD%CE%B9%CF%82 As long as this correspondence is algorithmicly defined, it shouldn't be difficult to implement. The latter proper URN can probably be translated into an IRI that would show the final characers in the native Greek alphabet, but I don't know enough about IRIs to know how that would work. Dale
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- Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs Julian Reschke
- Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs Dale R. Worley
- Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs Hakala, Juha E
- Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs Dale R. Worley
- Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs Julian Reschke
- Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs Dale R. Worley
- Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs Julian Reschke
- Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [urn] CTS and CITE2 URNs Peter Saint-Andre