Re: [urn] << PLEASE IGNORE THE PREV. MAIL>> Expert review needed
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Subject: Re: [urn] << PLEASE IGNORE THE PREV. MAIL>> Expert review needed
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Oops, I meant to say “as is”. Ben. > On Apr 12, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> wrote: > > HI Roozbeh and others, > > When deciding what to fix, please remember we are late in the process for non-critical fixes. When in doubt, please lean towards leaving things is”. > > Thanks! > > Ben. > >> On Apr 11, 2018, at 4:09 PM, R Atarius <r_atarius@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Lars >> >> please see below >> >> thanks >> Roozbeh >> >> >> From: "Svensson, Lars" <L.Svensson@dnb.de> >> To: R Atarius <r_atarius@yahoo.com> >> Cc: "urn@ietf.org" <urn@ietf.org>; "georg.mayer.huawei@gmx.com" <georg.mayer.huawei@gmx.com>; "ben@nostrum.com" <ben@nostrum.com>; "jbakker@blackberry.com" <jbakker@blackberry.com>; "Dale R. Worley (worley@ariadne.com)" <worley@ariadne.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:28 AM >> Subject: RE: << PLEASE IGNORE THE PREV. MAIL>> [urn] Expert review needed >> >> Hi Rozbeh, >> >> Just a minor comment from me (but I'll read the complete draft when the new version is published): >> >> On Friday, April 06, 2018 1:42 AM, R Atarius [mailto:r_atarius@yahoo.com] wrote: >> >> >> [...] >> >>> 4.2.3. Check Digit >>> >>> This is a single hexadecimal digit (bits 1-4 of octet 8) and is used >>> as assurance of integrity in error-prone operations, e.g. when used >>> with certain types of readers during inventory management operations. >>> The check digit is not transmitted by the mobile equipment and are >>> not used in the MEID URN. >>> >>> In section 4.2, for completeness, you give a lot of information that is >>> not strictly required. However you don't give the really non-trivial >>> bit of information: the formula for the check digit. After reading >>> this section, I was left curious what the check digit formula actually >>> is! >>> >>> [Roozbeh]: OK but can I leave it as it is? >> >> >> I think that technically you could, but I also agree with Dale that it might be confusing to supply non-required information. Since the check digit is not used in the MEID URN, it might be better to omit this paragraph or to rephrase it as >> >> "This is a single hexadecimal digit (bits 1-4 of octet 8). The check digit is not transmitted by the mobile equipment and is not used in the MEID URN." >> >> [Roozbeh] I believe that's how I started but I received comments about its functionality and that's why I added that sentence. I am good either way. If that makes you, Dale and IETF community satisfied then I can remove that sentence. Please let me know. >> >> ********************************************************************************************************************** >> >> Looking more closely at section 4.2, it feels a bit awkward that you first define the parts of the MEID format and then go on to put them together. You might want to consider rephrasing as follows: >> >> 4.2 MEID Format >> The MEID format is 15 hexadecimal digits encoded in 8 octets as defined in [S.R0048-A]. The first eight hexadecimal digits constitute the manufacturer code, the next six hexadecimal digits the serial number within the manufacturer code. The last hexadecimal digit is a check digit. For more details on the hexadecimal encoding cf. 4.2.4. >> >> 4.2.4 Hexadecimal Encoding >> The following figure ... [X.S0008-A]. >> >> [Roozbeh] I think that is what is called a "hanging section", since there should not be any text below 4.2 when there are 4.2.1, 4.2.2, etc. I can create a new subsection as "4.2.1 Overview" with the text you proposed and shift other subsection with 0.0.1. Will that help? >> >> >> Best, >> >> Lars > > _______________________________________________ > urn mailing list > urn@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/urn
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