[urn] Re: Request for Registration of CTS namespace

[Peter Saint-Andre <[e-mail]>]

Hi Jochen,

Thanks for your note.

My perspective is that we should get this namespace registered, whether 
or not Messrs Smith and Blackwell are involved. It always makes me 
somewhat nervous to have unregistered namespaces being used in the wild, 
especially at large scale.

As mentioned, I'll send a longer note soon. Because this namespace is 
applicable to what I think of as an "information science" problem space, 
I hope that folks on the expert review team (and elsewhere) with 
expertise in information sciences will share their perspectives, as Juha 
Hakala and others did in 2019.

Peter

On 5/20/26 4:05 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Thank you for the archived discussion. Always interesting to see people 
> discuss research that one currently works on :)
> 
> For clarity: CTS and CITE are separate namespaces and my scope is only 
> CTS. I think Monica Berti is currently most associated with CITE.
> 
> During my dissertation phase I had several discussions with Neel Smith 
> and Christopher Blackwell during Gregory Cranes professorship in Leipzig 
> and we collaborated in the sense that I implemented my work based on 
> their specs and feedback. The (escalated) result is now the project that 
> is linked in my request. Since Crane returned to US I did not hear any 
> news unfortunally. I am not sure if they still work on CTS but there 
> seem to be no updates.
> 
> It is kind of a confusing situation for me because I just learnt this 
> week that the namespace is not registered and this issue landed on my 
> desk as the service provider and implementer of the software. It is a 
> significant problem because the software is now mass-producing URNs for 
> a namespace that is academically defined but not IT-technically.
> I think that is also the core of the issue. For the authors of the 
> specifications, this is more of an academic thing that was completed 
> with the publication of the specs while the URN registration is a 
> technical (IT-) problem.
> 
> If Christopher Blackwell or Neel Smith reply, the registration should 
> definitely be attributed or transferred to them. I would honestly prefer 
> if the namespace is registered to them instead of me.
> Or maybe there is a mechanism to register it on behalf as long as they 
> don't register it?
> Or any possible solution would work for me as long as it leads to a 
> registered CTS namespace.
> 
> 
> Best Regards
> Jochen
> 
> 
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> 
> Am 20.05.26, 16:47 schrieb Peter Saint-Andre <[e-mail]>:
> 
>     Hi Jochen,
> 
>     Thank you for making this request. I'm happy to see work continuing on
>     the CTS registration, which we originally discussed on this list
>     back in
>     2019 (unfortunately the discussion petered out and we never completed
>     the registration process):
> 
>     https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/Rr1IBx-
>     tWGcefB4aKGeyNaxCKCo/ <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/urn/
>     Rr1IBx-tWGcefB4aKGeyNaxCKCo/>
> 
>     Just curious: have you collaborated with Neel Smith and Chris Blackwell
>     on this registration, or are they no longer actively working on the
>     project? Coincidentally I contacted them last month about CTS/CITE URNs
>     but haven't heard back yet.
> 
>     In the next few days I will take a closer look at the registration
>     request and provide feedback on this list.
> 
>     Peter
> 
>     On 5/20/26 4:01 AM, Jochen Tiepmar wrote:
>      > Dear IANA
>      >
>      >
>      > Please review the attached request for the registration of the
>     CTS URN
>      > namespace.
>      >
>      >
>      > Best Regards
>      > Jochen Tiepmar
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
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