Re: Protocol changes in draft-allbery-usefor-usepro-00

["Charles Lindsey" <[e-mail]>]

The following list summarizes the outcomes of the long list of protocol
differences that I raised. Each begins with [-1], [00] or [+1] to indicate my
own assessment of it (possibly modified since the original list). I regard the
{+1} and [00] as resolved (unless someone else want to take up one of the
[00] ones).

Of the original 44 items (numbered 1-42 because of some duplication), there
remain 18 [-1]s, some of which are the subject of continuing discussions. The
rest may well become ISSUEs in the next few days. A list of them follows:

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42

1. [-1] (2.2) <path-identity> - Possibility to use a FQDN not resolvable
in the DNS.

2. [+1] was [00] (3.2) Russ[-1] now case-insensitive
<path-identity>s are case-sensitive.

3. [-1] (3.3.1,3.4,3.9.2) From not omittable in proto-article ISSUE

4. [-1] (3.2.2,3.4,3.8) Injection-Date can be rewritten.
<[e-mail]> Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:04:51 GMT Re: Injection-Date and reinjection

5. [+1] was [-1] (3.3.4) Now fixed
SHOULD trim References to keep <= 998: reduced from MUST.

6. [-1] was [00] (3.4)
Injecting agents reporting rejection to user agent; was
SHOULD, now merely "encouraged".

7. [+1] (3.4) Injecting agent SHOULD have access to list of newsgroups.

8. [00] was [-1] (3.4) with revised wording (accepted)
Requirement for injecting agent to forward articles to
moderator groups reduced from MUST to SHOULD.

9. [-1] (3.4,3.5) under current discussion
Prepending of <path-identity> to Path by injecting agent
reduced from MUST to SHOULD.

10. [00] (3.4) Folding of Path header when length becomes excessive
reduced from SHOULD to MAY.

11. [-1] (3.4) Recommendation that each injecting agent SHOULD use a
consistent format for Injection-Info removed.

12. [-1] (3.5) Explanatory text suggested referring to USEPRO 3.2.4
The significance of "world" and "local" in the Distribution
header are no longer mentioned.

13. [+1] (3.5,3.6) Removed possibility of "aliassing out" a site where you
didn't want an article to go by including it in the Path to the right of
POSTED.

14. [+1] (3.5) Relaying agent MUST reject articles without Newgroups or
Message-ID or (injection-Date or Date).

15. {+1} was [-1] (3.5) Relaying agent MUST reject any article already already sent 
to it.

16. [-1] (3.5) under current discussion
Relaying agent SHOULD deal with cancel message (if it
chooses to honour it)

17. [00] (3.5) Relaying agents SHOULD determine verified/expected source
of article and construct <path-diagnostics> accordingly.

18. [-1] (3.5) Russ[-1] Incorrectly fixed
No provision for >1 <path-identity> per relaying agent.
<[e-mail]> Mon, 1 Jan 2007 20:52:37 GMT Re: Path header field

19. [00] (3.5) Russ[+1] Partially fixed
No provision to omit <path-identity> for intermediate
servers on same site.

20. {-1} was [00] CHL[+1] with revised wording (but wording not accepted)
(3.5) Relaying agent MAY add a new Xref header.

Alert! Duplicated issue number #21!

21A. [00] (3.6) Storage of control messages in the (pseudo) hierarchy
control(.*) is a SHOULD.

21B. [00] was [-1] with revised wording (accepted)
(3.6) No mention of processing cancel messages by serving/storage
agents.

22. [00] Frank[-1] Forrest[+1]
(3.7) Removed recommendation that reading agent SHOULD have the
capability to display the raw article 'as received'.

23. [-1] Frank[-1]
(3.8) Moderators merely "encouraged" (was SHOULD) to retain
existing <msg-id>.

24. [00] (3.2.1) Removed provision (MAY) for outgoing gateway to change
Content-Transfer-Encoding.

25. [+1] (4.1) Application/news-transmission no longer handles batches.

26. {+1} was [-1]
(4.2,4.3) Removed requirement that
application/news-[groupinfo,checkgroups] MUST NOT be used except with
relevant control messages.

Alert! Duplicated issue number #27!

27A. [+1] (4.3) Application/news-[groupinfo,checkgroups] have a charset
parameter.

27B. [+1] was [-1] Russ[-1] Revised wording agreed.
(5) Nothing stated regarding Newsgroups header of Control
messages.

28. [00] Frank[-1]
(5) Subjects starting with 'cmsg' not accompanied by a Control
header MAY be rejected.

29. [+1] was [00]
(5.2) Newsgroup-names MUST be checked against disallowed names before
group control message is honoured.

30. [-1] (5.2) Nothing said about content of Approved header.
<[e-mail]> Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:42:21 GMT Re: Approved header field content (was: Protocol changes in draft-allbery-usefor-usepro-00)

31. [+1] was [-1] with revised wording (not accepted, but still CHL +1)
(5.2.1) Newgroup message SHOULD include application/group-info.

32. [+1] was [-1] Russ[-1] Reworded
(5.2.1) Newgroup message containing other attachments in addition to
news-groupinfo to be multipart/related (was multipart/mixed).

33. [+1] Russ[+1](just)
(5.2.3) Checkgroups message still contains chkscope and chksernr
arguments.

34. [-1] was [00] with revised wording not accepted
(5.2.3) Checkgroups SHOULD contain sub-hierarchies excluded by
chkscope, for backwards compatibility.

35. [+1] (5.2.3) Chksernr MUST increase with successive checkgroups message.

36. [+1] was [00] (5.2.3) CHL[+1]
Body of checkgroups SHOULD be application/checkgroups, and
otherwise SHOULD treat as if it were.

37. [-1] was [00] Frank[-1]
(5.3) Body of cancel message MAY contain ...explanatory text.

38. [-1] revised wording not accepted
(5.3) No mention of who should be in From/Sender of cancel message.

39. [-1] Russ[-1] still under discussion
(5.5) The <relayer-name> in ihave and sendme control messages is now
optional.

40. [-1] (5.5) Format of batched news in response to sendme removed.

41. [+1] was [-1] (5.5) Russ[-1] new text written
The protocol for using the 'to.' newsgroup-name is omitted.

42. [-1] (5.6) Obsolete control messages SHOULD NOT be sent/honoured/



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