Re: [v4v6interim] "IPv4->IPv6 is hard"

Fred Baker 写道:
>
> On Oct 20, 2008, at 2:53 PM, marcelo bagnulo braun wrote:
>>> (2) As the ISP, we price IVI addresses (1:1 mapping of IPv4 address, 
>>> scarce resource) and non-IVI addresses (non-scarce resource) 
>>> differently. So it is also economically reasonable.
>> Right, this is exactly what i would like to prevent, that ISPs have 
>> control on whether their clients are able or not to publish content 
>> from their sites
>
> Excuse me?
>
> Trust me, given that you attach to someone's network, they are in 
> control of what services they offer you, and they are in a position to 
> filter-or-whatever if they want. Given that you have a choice of 
> offerings, they are not in control of the choices you make, but they 
> can prevent you from making certain choices in their network by not 
> offering you the choice.
>
> What Xing Li proposes - and what I propose - is not as onerous as you 
> appear to believe. He gives you the option of paying for a directly 
> (1:1) translatable address and he doesn't tell you what you may do 
> with it. Given that, you have the option of paying for the service he 
> is offering or paying for a different one, perhaps one from a 
> different ISP - the same choice you have with any ISP. Given that you 
> choose to pay for a 1:1 translatable address (just as you would with 
> the NAT64 model), you can put any content behind that address that you 
> want to.
>
> And in any event, I would really hope that we could avoid political 
> agendas here. Last I checked, we're technologists and we are 
> describing technology. Pretending that we are preventing ISPs from 
> doing one thing or forcing them to do another is a pipe dream. Once it 
> is deployed, they're in control.
>
> Let's work on the technology.
Agree. We are working on technology and provide feasible solutions. The 
market will make the decision. xing
>
>

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