Re: [v6ops] Request for your two cents: Pros and Cons of IPv6 Transition Technologies for IPv4aaS (464XLAT, DS-Lite, lw4o6, MAP-E, MAP-T)

Lee Howard <lee@asgard.org> Wed, 19 September 2018 14:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Request for your two cents: Pros and Cons of IPv6 Transition Technologies for IPv4aaS (464XLAT, DS-Lite, lw4o6, MAP-E, MAP-T)
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On 09/19/2018 06:08 AM, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
>
>
> Le 18/09/2018 à 17:58, Edwin Cordeiro a écrit :
>> I did an analysis on some of the techniques a few years ago, not sure 
>> if it would still be useful:
>> http://edwin.scordeiro.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/ComparisonBetweenIPv4toIPv6TransitionTechniques.pdf 
>>
>
> In that paper there is photo of skype session on transition technologies.
>
> Is skype now working on IPv6?

I started to test it (the web app, at least), but no AAAA for 
www.skype.com or web.skype.com
So, still no IPv6 support for Skype.

Lee

>
> Alex
>
>>
>> In the unlikely case you speak Portuguese all the details are 
>> available at:
>> http://edwin.scordeiro.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Edwin_Cordeiro_Mestrado_IPT.pdf 
>>
>>
>> Edwin Cordeiro
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 5:23 PM Lee Howard <lee@asgard.org 
>> <mailto:lee@asgard.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 09/17/2018 08:33 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
>>      > Requires using ISP’s recursive servers
>>      >
>>      > Yes, No, No, No, No
>>      >
>>      > We don’t yet have a NAT64 prefix discovery mechanism for 
>> 464XLAT that
>>      > doesn’t use the DNS.  This is not the same as requiring 
>> DNS64.  The
>>      > mapping can be in a locally served IPV4ONLY.ARPA zone (note 
>> this has
>>      > all the same DNSSEC issues as DNS64 because IANA’s 
>> IPV4ONLY.ARPA zone
>>      > is signed and securely delegated).
>>      >
>>     As I think about it, Google has public DNS64 servers that return a
>>     synthesized address using the WKP 64:ff9b::/96. So you might not be
>>     required to use the ISP's DNS (if the ISP uses the WKP).
>>     Or, as you say, other DNS shenanigans.
>>
>>     Lee
>>
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