Re: [v6ops] Extension Headers / Impact on Security Devices

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Wed, 20 May 2015 12:28 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: Tim Chown <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu>
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On 20/05/15 10:14, "Tim Chown" <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>The other question is what existing work is being done that relies on the
>correct (desired) operation of EHs? The two that would spring out would
>be segment routing and sfc, at least one of which is using the existing
>Routing Header. If such protocols are constrained to specific
>administrative domains then their successful operation I would assume is
>down to specific EH handling in the equipment in that domain, and its
>capabilities, rather than (undesired) operator filtering somewhere
>between sender and receiver.

The primary use case of segment routing is indeed within a single
administrative domain, so, EH does not cause a problem.

OTOH, this whole discussion is pretty close to having a discussion on
whether an ISP should block everything which is neither UDP nor TCP? Or
block currently-unallocated TCP/UDP ports? (and I appreciate that there
are differences of course).

To Enno's original point: it is fair for a destination domain to handle
(permit, drop, log, inspect) incoming (or outgoing BTW) packets based on
layer-4 ports, layer-4 protocols or extension headers. This is their own
responsibility

-éric