Re: [v6ops] Comments on draft-hazeyama-widecamp-ipv6-only-experience-01

Tina TSOU <Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com> Thu, 22 March 2012 05:20 UTC

Return-Path: <Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com>
X-Original-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC54821F854C for <v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:20:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.999
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.600, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_13=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_35=0.6]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ViMpXamdj4KQ for <v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:20:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from dfwrgout.huawei.com (dfwrgout.huawei.com [206.16.17.72]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90A021E803F for <v6ops@ietf.org>; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:20:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from 172.18.9.243 (EHLO dfweml201-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.9.243]) by dfwrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.2.3-GA FastPath) with ESMTP id AEH16310; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:20:07 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from DFWEML404-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.203) by dfweml201-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.9.107) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:17:33 -0700
Received: from SZXEML431-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.72.61.39) by dfweml404-hub.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.203) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:17:38 -0700
Received: from SZXEML526-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.7.172]) by szxeml431-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.72.61.39]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 13:17:34 +0800
From: Tina TSOU <Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com>
To: Ruri Hiromi <hiromi@inetcore.com>
Thread-Topic: [v6ops] Comments on draft-hazeyama-widecamp-ipv6-only-experience-01
Thread-Index: AQHNB+rF1wAmA/2/60qQfgBpk01boZZ1xlgE
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 05:17:34 +0000
Message-ID: <1E94A024-31A2-4B74-9FE0-7A618F757940@huawei.com>
References: <CAM+vMERyvyL4r5=vhkUYTg8D2eFSnA98a54ybtMJU6a9FUPwgA@mail.gmail.com>, <4F6AB545.50904@inetcore.com>
In-Reply-To: <4F6AB545.50904@inetcore.com>
Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected
Cc: "v6ops@ietf.org" <v6ops@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [v6ops] Comments on draft-hazeyama-widecamp-ipv6-only-experience-01
X-BeenThere: v6ops@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: v6ops discussion list <v6ops.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/v6ops>
List-Post: <mailto:v6ops@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 05:20:09 -0000

Jari has a IPv6 only experience draft before.

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:15 PM, "Ruri Hiromi" <hiromi@inetcore.com> wrote:

> Hi Gang and all,
> 
> Thanks for your comment.
> 
> As you mentioned in the previous mail, the failures are due to
> implementation or settings, not for protocol specification. So that we
> will modify its description to be more clear.
> 
> Our additional comment in line;
> 
>> 1. Some testing results have been shown in tables of section 4.2.
>> Wondering to known what reasons cause the data transmission failures
>> in the case of Frag. C => S on table 7.
> 
> IIJ who gave us 4rd implementation is still inspecting their codes but
> the reason might comes from the MTU handling process.
> For your reference, IIJ said they follow RFC2473 Section 7.2 for the
> Path MTU function in 4rd.
> 
> Consequently the correct answer for this goes "yes".
> We will make a correction at Frag. C => S in the 4rd/IPoE case on table
> 7 as follows.
> 
>        +-----------------+-------------------+------------------+
>        |     Elements    |   4RD/PPPoE (v4)  |   4RD/IPoE (v4)  |
>        +-----------------+-------------------+------------------+
>        |       NAT       |       Exist       |       Exist      |
>        | --------------- | ----------------- | ---------------- |
>        |     Mapping     |        Bad        |       Good       |
>        | --------------- | ----------------- | ---------------- |
>        |    Filtering    |        Good       |       Good       |
>        | --------------- | ----------------- | ---------------- |
>        |       RTT       |        156        |        323       |
>        | --------------- | ----------------- | ---------------- |
>        | MTU size C => S |        1452       |       1452       |
>        | --------------- | ----------------- | ---------------- |
>        |   Frag. C => S  |         NO        |        YES       |
>        | --------------- | ----------------- | ---------------- |
>        | MTU size S => C |        1280       |       1452       |
>        | --------------- | ----------------- | ---------------- |
>        |   Frag. S => C  |        YES        |        YES       |
>        +-----------------+-------------------+------------------+
> 
> 
>> 2. I guess some statements on "dependency between IPv4 and IPv6
>> address" should be clarified further.
> 
> Thank you for the advice. We will modify it more appropriate expression.
> 
>> 3. In table10, why is the hairpinning not supported? 4rd could do that
>> in hub&spoke mode between CE-CE communications. And 464XLAT adpoted
>> RFC 6146, which could support hairpinning as well.
> 
> We think the lack of hairpinning support on the camp experiment might be
> from configuration matters.
> 
> In the 4rd case, IIJ answered us that it was disabled in the
> configuration and we could not evaluate hairpining function with CE-CE
> communication at that time. In addition to that the 4rd configured as
> mesh model.
> The 464XLAT case was also caused by setting of PLAT.
> Anyway specification of 4rd and 464XLAT would be satisfied with hairpinning.
> 
> We will try to give more information in detail in the draft.
> 
> We appreciate further comments.
> Regards,
> 
> (2012/03/14 18:04), GangChen wrote:
>> Hello authors,
>> 
>> Generally, the draft provided informative testing data and pointed the
>> failures cases. I guess some failures are related to implementations;
>> some are due to protocol inconsistency. It's better to make categories
>> so it's beneficial for the group identifying the workaround.
>> 
>> More detailed:
>> 
>> 1. Some testing results have been shown in tables of section 4.2.
>> Wondering to known what reasons cause the data transmission failures
>> in the case of Frag. C => S on table 7.
>> 
>> 2. I guess some statements on "dependency between IPv4 and IPv6
>> address" should be clarified further.
>> 
>> 3. In table10, why is the hairpinning not supported? 4rd could do that
>> in hub&spoke mode between CE-CE communications. And 464XLAT adpoted
>> RFC 6146, which could support hairpinning as well.
>> 
>> BRs
>> 
>> Gang
>> _______________________________________________
>> v6ops mailing list
>> v6ops@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops
> 
> 
> -- 
> ---------------
> Ruri Hiromi
> INTEC Inc.
> _______________________________________________
> v6ops mailing list
> v6ops@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops