Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Right" AusNOG presentation
Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Tue, 17 September 2019 13:22 UTC
Return-Path: <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB2C12084E for <v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 06:22:17 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.632
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.632 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dov5JwBNhNql for <v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 06:22:15 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from cirse-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr (cirse-smtp-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.148]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F030120846 for <v6ops@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 06:22:15 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by cirse-sys.extra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id x8HDMDnA004853; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:22:13 +0200
Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id D9288201F31; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:22:13 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr (muguet1-smtp-out.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.12]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3E42015DB; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:22:13 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from [10.8.35.150] (is154594.intra.cea.fr [10.8.35.150]) by muguet1-sys.intra.cea.fr (8.14.7/8.14.7/CEAnet-Internet-out-4.0) with ESMTP id x8HDMDvB018823; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:22:13 +0200
To: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
Cc: v6ops@ietf.org
References: <CAO42Z2yJWgswT6+RYqunqYX70tg4BY3s3rsBGscvNfi-+uFqcQ@mail.gmail.com> <1a8cd6c2-7c5a-3260-7027-fd84a89945bd@gmail.com> <20190917115032.GM55186@Space.Net> <30fe8da2-bd72-1be4-fbb6-5ebdeb451771@gmail.com> <20190917125542.GQ55186@Space.Net>
From: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6ba597e9-b622-6c22-7e3b-40d11f4270a4@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:22:13 +0200
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <20190917125542.GQ55186@Space.Net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format="flowed"
Content-Language: fr
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/KieTU7B3jvN7TPG7bLFoMtN832c>
Subject: Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Right" AusNOG presentation
X-BeenThere: v6ops@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: v6ops discussion list <v6ops.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/v6ops/>
List-Post: <mailto:v6ops@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:22:17 -0000
Le 17/09/2019 à 14:55, Gert Doering a écrit : > Hi, > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 01:56:29PM +0200, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: >> 64share can not share a /64 to more than one ingress interfaces, as an >> IoT Router, or a CPE, needs. > > You can share the /64 to as many interfaces as you want. One can share a /64 to several interfaces as long as they are of same technology, so they could be bridged. One could share a /64 from upstream to an Ethernet and a WiFi downstream because these two latter are both using same LLC and can be bridged. One cant share such a /64 to a downstream WiFi and a downstream 802.11-OCB because they are not precisely the same LLC, and they cant be bridged. (same problem with downstream Ethernet and Bluetooth, Ethernet and USB, and many others). My IoT Router I deployed in a traffic lights controller has this problem. > Is "having a larger prefix that you can segment and route" *nicer*? Yes, > certainly, but that doesn't preclude other approaches from working. It is indeed an aspect of being nicer. But there are also places where simply 64share cant work: - an IoT Router with unbridgeable downstream interfaces. - an IoT Router with other routers further downstream. My IoT Router I deployed in several cars has this problem. Alex
- [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Right" A… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Righ… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Righ… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Righ… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Righ… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Righ… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Righ… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Righ… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Righ… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Righ… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Righ… Ca By
- Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Righ… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Righ… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Righ… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] "Getting IPv6 Private Addressing Righ… Alexandre Petrescu