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Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-vyncke-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-cookie-00.txt

Andrew 👽 Yourtchenko <ayourtch@gmail.com> Fri, 31 October 2014 14:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-vyncke-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-cookie-00.txt
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On 10/31/14, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com> wrote:
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> From: Simon Perreault <sperreault@jive.com<mailto:sperreault@jive.com>>
> We need more and more to think of source IP addresses as ephemeral things.
> Just like you don't care which ephemeral source port gets picked by the OS
> when you call connect(), you shouldn't care about which source address is
> picked when calling connect_by_name() or whatever other HE-like API out
> there.
>
>
> Ephemeral and probably less and less meaningful

It loses its meaning of an "identity", and keeps the one as a full
(IPv6) or partial (IPv4+NAT) "current locator in the network".

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