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Re: [v6ops] LAN-side NTP in rfc7084bis?

Timothy Winters <tim@qacafe.com> Wed, 20 March 2024 01:07 UTC

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From: Timothy Winters <tim@qacafe.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 11:07:17 +1000
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] LAN-side NTP in rfc7084bis?
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Hi Brian,

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 10:49 AM Brian E Carpenter <
brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

> It occurred to me a bit late that a reasonable statement might be that
> *if* a CE router supports NTP over IPv4 on the LAN side, then it MUST also
> support it over IPv6; otherwise it can be a MAY.
>
That is a very good "late" thought.   The next revision, we'll take a stab
at documenting that.

~Tim

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> The rationale is to remove a possible IPv4 dependency for hosts.
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> Regards
>     Brian Carpenter


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