Re: [v6ops] Very basic question: What is IPv6 native?

Alejandro Acosta <alejandroacostaalamo@gmail.com> Thu, 18 July 2019 21:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Very basic question: What is IPv6 native?
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Hello Jordi,

  Thanks for this, I was not aware of this draft.  I'm happy the
definition is in a document, hopefully it moves forward in the WG. Hard
to believe so many documents mention "native IPv6" without a clear
definition (well, assumptions are just fine but much better to write it
down)

  So far I like this definition (copy/pasted from your doc):

5.  Native dual-stack

   This can be applied to a host, router, link, network (part), etc.  It
   means that both, IPv4 and IPv6 are configured/used natively (without
   the need of transition mechanisms).


  The part: "without the need of transition mechanisms" imho is the key.

  If you allow me to say something, you can add to your text: "without
the need of transition mechanisms such as encapsulation, protocol
translations and/or packet modifications". Adding this won't hurt.


  Thanks, good luck.


Alejandro,


On 7/18/19 4:00 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> Hi Alejandro,
>
> May be something for adding some more text into:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-palet-v6ops-ipv6-only/
>
> Let me know if the existing text is sufficient, or what do you suggest to add.
>
> Regards,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
>  
>  
>
> El 18/7/19 21:57, "v6ops en nombre de Alejandro Acosta" <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de alejandroacostaalamo@gmail.com> escribió:
>
>     Hello there,
>     
>       Sorry if this is not the place to ask this.
>     
>       I was looking for the concept of "Native IPv6" with no luck.
>     
>       I performed a search in google restricting the results inside
>     ietf.org. However even when a lot of results with the string "IPv6
>     Native" the concept/description/meaning of what IPv6 native is did not
>     show up. Among the results I found:
>     
>     https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6751 (Native IPv6 behind IPv4-to-IPv4 NAT
>     Customer Premises Equipment)
>     
>     https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-v6ops-rfc7084-bis-00.html (Basic
>     Requirements for IPv6 Customer Edge Routers)
>     
>     https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-lopez-v6ops-dc-ipv6-05.html (IPv6
>     Operational Guidelines for Datacenters)
>     
>     https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7381 ()
>     
>       And I found this old thread which refer to this very same topic:
>     
>       https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/KkkOMeinS-l9i_SaViVXHuRw20A
>     
>     
>       Is there any document that I might be missing that officially
>     describes the concept/meaning of "Native IPv6"?
>     
>     
>     Thanks a lot,
>     
>     
>     Alejandro,
>     
>     
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