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Re: [v6ops] IPv6 fragmentation experience

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Fri, 23 March 2018 00:50 UTC

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:50:27 -0700
Cc: Jen Linkova <furry13@gmail.com>, Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>, "v6ops@ietf.org WG" <v6ops@ietf.org>
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> On Mar 22, 2018, at 5:35 PM, Ole Troan <otroan@employees.org> wrote:
> 
> Joe,
> 
> It seems you are in denial about the consequences for IPv4 with ever increasing address sharing. 

You are willing to pay money to be lied to. I am not

Joe


> 
> Ole
> 
>> On 23 Mar 2018, at 01:28, Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/22/2018 10:21 AM, Jen Linkova wrote:
>>> The expectations need to be set and documented.
>> 
>> On that, I agree.
>> 
>> The expectation is that a device that inspects L4 will preserve L4
>> semantics - which means that if it starts forwarding on L4, it had
>> better keep doing so for the rest of the fragments for that L4.
>> 
>> Just saying "that's what everyone does" isn't an answer. Everyone (in
>> general) disobeys speed limits; that doesn't mean we stop putting them
>> up or stop enforcing them.
>> 
>> Joe
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