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Re: [v6ops] Operational Headache: Upstream liveness

Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 29 March 2019 09:22 UTC

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On Mar 29, 2019, at 7:09 AM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) <rajiva@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> Why is NUD not sufficient to address the problem (WAN neighbor unreachable)?
> 
> I hope that the HGW devices are compliant with RFC4861 / 7048.

Well, that seems like a reasonable hope. I think that Mikael is saying that in IPOE environments they might not be compliant, or compliant implementations still have a problem. I think the key point here is to uncover what the issue might be in the context he is discussing, as opposed to simply dismissing it.

> Cheers,
> Rajiv
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2019, at 6:44 AM, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/slides-104-v6ops-deutsche-telekom-terastream/, slide 9
>> 
>> What do we want to say on this issue? Mikael mentions draft-patterson-intarea-ipoe-health as possibly relevant, but I also get the idea that there is more to say; in this case, I think I need to send a note to the relevant authors and chairs asking them what the prognosis is and expressing operational interest. First, is there a consensus to do that? Second, do we have additional comments to pass along? Our comments might be adequately summarized by forwarding a link to this thread, or might rise to the level that needs to be discussed in an internet draft in v6ops. Comments?
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