Re: [v6ops] draft-keranen-ipv6day-measurements

"t.petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com> Fri, 05 August 2011 10:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-keranen-ipv6day-measurements
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--- Original Message -----
From: "Ari Keranen" <ari.keranen@nomadiclab.com>
To: "t.petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com>
Cc: "IPv6 Operations" <v6ops@ietf.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:33 AM
On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:07 PM, t.petch wrote:
> In the hope that you will take up Fred's generous offer to push this through
to
> an RFC, I hope that you will find these comments helpful

Thanks for the feedback! As Jari already mentioned, we haven't fixed our plans
regarding how and if these results should be published, but if there is interest
in the WG, v6ops RFC is indeed one good option.

> I would like to see more references, for 6to4 and for the various .pdf; I
think
> it works better to have them all in one place.

By .pdf do you mean the graph PDFs, other presentations something else?

<tp>
I mean the graph PDFs, where you have the URI in the text but not in the
References, I would like it at least in the latter, less concerned about the
former.
</tp>

> I find the X-axis of the graphs unclear; time presumably, but what time?

It's the sequence number of the measurement run; so something like "time in 3
hour steps since the start of the tests". Probably hours (or even time and date)
would work better here.

<tp>
Yes, date and time would be lovely; I thought it was measurement run but did not
have a start point and the interval was not obvious.
</tp>

> I think that the biggest conclusion is omitted; only 2.45% of the top 10,000
> sites offer IPv6 via DNS ie next to none; I think that this should be in BIG
> BOLD LETTERS.

True, but that was not news to anyone :)

<tp>
Disagree; we know that the availability of IPv6 is negligible but we do not know
how much it is, and a hard data point at a point in time will provide a valuable
record.  I was surprised at how small it was, I would have guessed 10-20% ( but
then I am probably misled but the amount of traffic on the v6ops list:-)
</tp>

> And while comprehension is no problem, the idiom is sometimes slightly odd.
> Doubtless the RFC Editor will fix it but I could point some of these out to
you
> if you want.

That'd be helpful; please send me a mail with those off-list.

<tp>
I hope you do; Fred has indicated a willingness to help.  I cannot think of a
way to put it without being unfair to Fred, but it is an offer never to spurn.

Tom Petch
</tp>
Cheers,
Ari

P.S. I'll be out of office for a couple of weeks, so it may take a while before
I have a chance to follow up on this


> Tom Petch
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Baker" <fred@cisco.com>
> To: "t.petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com>
> Cc: "IPv6 Operations" <v6ops@ietf.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 6:49 PM
> On Aug 1, 2011, at 3:23 AM, t.petch wrote: