Re: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-08.txt

joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> Wed, 19 September 2012 15:19 UTC

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diff2 is here:

http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-08.txt

We've got 873 or so messages documenting this discussion  195 of which 
are from one person. I think we have a pretty idea where all the active 
parties stand, we  just need to capture that.

On 9/18/12 8:29 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
> Dear v6ops WG,
>
> We have submitted -08 of 464XLAT.
>
> Since this is a WG document, we feel obliged to make the following
> changes in the -08 version of the 464XLAT I-D to reflect the rough
> consensus of ideas.
>
> The following 2 material changes have been made:
>
>
> 1.  BIH reference has been removed.
>
> Tim, Woj, Maoke, Lorenzo, Joel, Randy, Tom, and others have requested
> that BIH reference be removed.  The authors believe BIH is a worthy
> and complimentary technology for 464XLAT.  Thank you Gang and Hui for
> helping us understand BIH and the implementation progress.  We believe
> a reference to BIH adds no harm to 464XLAT.
>
> Yet, BIH is its own standard track RFC.  It is unfortunate that we
> cannot reference the 464XLAT reader to BIH.  We think this idea will
> be needed and useful, but it appears the WG objects to the reference.
>
>
> 2.  IPv6 WAN address sharing has been removed, including IANA
> references and ND Proxy references.
>
> Hermant, Woj, and others have found issue with /64 address sharing
> with ND Proxy.  Remi's method is clever and technically astute, but it
> did not gain WG support. That said, reflecting on the I-D, we could
> not include any references to /64 sharing since that is not the core
> of the I-D and rightfully should be its own I-D.  We strongly
> encourage the lesson learned and analysis of this area be carried
> forward in a properly scoped separate I-D.
>
> We originally added Remi's method and BIH because we found them to be
> technically worthy, and we are removing them not because of revelation
> about their worthiness, but due to rough consensus of the WG and a
> greater focus on the narrow scope of 464XLAT.
>
> Thanks again to all the WG participants for taking the time to make
> this I-D better.  We believe these edits address the feedback received
> in last call.
>
> CB
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From:  <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> Date: Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:05 AM
> Subject: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-08.txt
> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
> Cc: v6ops@ietf.org
>
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>   This draft is a work item of the IPv6 Operations Working Group of the IETF.
>
>          Title           : 464XLAT: Combination of Stateful and
> Stateless Translation
>          Author(s)       : Masataka Mawatari
>                            Masanobu Kawashima
>                            Cameron Byrne
>          Filename        : draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-08.txt
>          Pages           : 14
>          Date            : 2012-09-18
>
> Abstract:
>     This document describes an architecture (464XLAT) for providing
>     limited IPv4 connectivity across an IPv6-only network by combining
>     existing and well-known stateful protocol translation RFC 6146 in the
>     core and stateless protocol translation RFC 6145 at the edge. 464XLAT
>     is a simple and scalable technique to quickly deploy limited IPv4
>     access service to IPv6-only edge networks without encapsulation.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat
>
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-08
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-08
>
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>
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