Re: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-08.txt
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-08.txt
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diff2 is here: http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-08.txt We've got 873 or so messages documenting this discussion 195 of which are from one person. I think we have a pretty idea where all the active parties stand, we just need to capture that. On 9/18/12 8:29 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote: > Dear v6ops WG, > > We have submitted -08 of 464XLAT. > > Since this is a WG document, we feel obliged to make the following > changes in the -08 version of the 464XLAT I-D to reflect the rough > consensus of ideas. > > The following 2 material changes have been made: > > > 1. BIH reference has been removed. > > Tim, Woj, Maoke, Lorenzo, Joel, Randy, Tom, and others have requested > that BIH reference be removed. The authors believe BIH is a worthy > and complimentary technology for 464XLAT. Thank you Gang and Hui for > helping us understand BIH and the implementation progress. We believe > a reference to BIH adds no harm to 464XLAT. > > Yet, BIH is its own standard track RFC. It is unfortunate that we > cannot reference the 464XLAT reader to BIH. We think this idea will > be needed and useful, but it appears the WG objects to the reference. > > > 2. IPv6 WAN address sharing has been removed, including IANA > references and ND Proxy references. > > Hermant, Woj, and others have found issue with /64 address sharing > with ND Proxy. Remi's method is clever and technically astute, but it > did not gain WG support. That said, reflecting on the I-D, we could > not include any references to /64 sharing since that is not the core > of the I-D and rightfully should be its own I-D. We strongly > encourage the lesson learned and analysis of this area be carried > forward in a properly scoped separate I-D. > > We originally added Remi's method and BIH because we found them to be > technically worthy, and we are removing them not because of revelation > about their worthiness, but due to rough consensus of the WG and a > greater focus on the narrow scope of 464XLAT. > > Thanks again to all the WG participants for taking the time to make > this I-D better. We believe these edits address the feedback received > in last call. > > CB > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org> > Date: Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:05 AM > Subject: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-08.txt > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: v6ops@ietf.org > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the IPv6 Operations Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : 464XLAT: Combination of Stateful and > Stateless Translation > Author(s) : Masataka Mawatari > Masanobu Kawashima > Cameron Byrne > Filename : draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-08.txt > Pages : 14 > Date : 2012-09-18 > > Abstract: > This document describes an architecture (464XLAT) for providing > limited IPv4 connectivity across an IPv6-only network by combining > existing and well-known stateful protocol translation RFC 6146 in the > core and stateless protocol translation RFC 6145 at the edge. 464XLAT > is a simple and scalable technique to quickly deploy limited IPv4 > access service to IPv6-only edge networks without encapsulation. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-08 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-08 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops > _______________________________________________ > v6ops mailing list > v6ops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops >
- [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-08.t… internet-drafts
- [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat… Cameron Byrne
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-464… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-464… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-464… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-464… GangChen
- Re: [v6ops] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-464… Lorenzo Colitti