Re: [v6ops] management and ipv6

"Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com> Mon, 20 December 2010 09:50 UTC

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From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] management and ipv6
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 9:28 PM
> To: Joel Jaeggli
> Cc: Jari Arkko; Romascanu, Dan (Dan); 'IPv6 Operations'
> Subject: Re: [v6ops] management and ipv6
> 
> On 2010-12-17 18:31, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> > On 12/16/10 10:49 AM, Jari Arkko wrote:
> >> In the course of discussing 
> draft-arkko-ipv6-transition-guidelines in 
> >> the IESG, Dan and other IESG members brought up the need to talk 
> >> about management in IPv6 networks. For instance, in IPv6-only 
> >> networks all your management tools have to be capable of 
> IPv6, both 
> >> in dual stack and IPv6-only you want your data models to support 
> >> IPv6, in dual stack you need to monitor reachability and 
> errors not 
> >> just in IPv4 but also in IPv6, and so on.
> > 
> > what version of netflow you use is also germain for example.
> 
> I think you might mean ipfix, in the IETF context. Making 
> sure that ipfix is 100% ipv6-safe is important.
> 
>     Brian
>

I think it is. If somebody knows any deficiencies on this respect please
bring them to the attention of the IPFIX WG. 

Dan