Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-dhc-pd-exclude
"Hemant Singh (shemant)" <shemant@cisco.com> Thu, 08 December 2011 18:16 UTC
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From: "Hemant Singh (shemant)" <shemant@cisco.com>
To: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-dhc-pd-exclude
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From: Lorenzo Colitti [mailto:lorenzo@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 5:35 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: jouni korhonen; Thomas Narten; Ray Hunter; v6ops@ietf.org Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-dhc-pd-exclude >Wait, what? >You have a set of PD clients on the same link and want to exclude the same /64 from each of the PDs you hand out? That doesn't make sense. Since each of the PD clients will >get its own prefix (say, a /60) and they won't overlap (since they're different customers), only at most one of the PDs will include the /64. So there's no need to exclude >anything for the others. The DR has one network interface serving, say, 20K clients who are RR's. DR is a CMTS (access concentrator) and the RR's are IPv6 CE routers behind bridged cable modems. Like the use case mentioned in the pd-exclude document, the DR is the next-hop to the RR. The DR is using a /64 on the network interface and the DR issues multicast RA from this network interface. The /64 matches as the exclude prefix for one RR but the DR happens to use the /64 on its interface multicasting the RA to all of the 20K clients. Thus the /64 is off-link to all clients and "excluded". Also, none of the other 19,999 RR's need to support the pd-exclude option. Thus soon as the SP domain gets one RR's pd-exclude to say, a /64, then the SP provisioning does not support pd-exclude RR's on the same network interface on the SP DR. Alternatively, does the DR uses unicast RA to each of the 20K clients. Do folks think such details needs to be added to the pd-exclude document as an Appendix so that folks have some SP provisioning background. Hemant
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Wes Beebee
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Wes Beebee
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-03.t… internet-drafts
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Wes Beebee
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Wes Beebee
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Vízdal Aleš
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Vízdal Aleš
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Vízdal Aleš
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hans Liu
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hans Liu
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-03.t… Hans Liu
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Maglione Roberta
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Maglione Roberta
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Vízdal Aleš
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Maglione Roberta
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Maglione Roberta
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Maglione Roberta
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ole Troan
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- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Thomas Narten
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Thomas Narten
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Thomas Narten
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
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- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Sander Steffann
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Sander Steffann
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- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ray Hunter
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- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Sander Steffann
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- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Ray Hunter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-dhc-pd-exclude Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Frank Bulk
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Frank Bulk
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Maglione Roberta
- Re: [v6ops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-v6ops-6204bis-… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-dhc-pd-exclude jouni korhonen
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-dhc-pd-exclude Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-dhc-pd-exclude Lorenzo Colitti
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- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-dhc-pd-exclude Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-dhc-pd-exclude Hemant Singh (shemant)
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