Re: [v6ops] Which IPv4aaS mechanisms should CE routers implement first?

Originally, when I started working on this a few years ago, I tried the RFC7084bis way … but even if initially was supported by the WG, finally the original authors didn’t agree.

So, I think that now it may be easier to “update” RFC8585 to be STD, but I’m not sure if the chairs and AD can suggest something else.

Regards,

Jordi

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El 24/11/21 18:47, "v6ops en nombre de Vasilenko Eduard" <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de vasilenko.eduard=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org> escribió:

How exactly to do it?

Update RFC 7084? (merge RFC 8585 with RFC 7084)

Or rewrite 8585 as a “standard”? (it is “informational” now)

IMHO: 7084bis is better. Less number of documents.

Eduard

From: v6ops [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
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Should we make RFC8585 a “must”?

I think is time to take stronger positions from IETF.

El 24/11/21 18:19, "v6ops en nombre de Richard Patterson" <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de richard@helix.net.nz> escribió:

On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 at 14:25, Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

The best MAP use case that I have seen (really rich in technical details) was from Richard Patterson

after Sky did green-field implementation for Italy.

He did it in many please (you could google), I like this version: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/open-house/ripe-ncc-open-house-ipv6-only-networks from 00:37 to 1:09

Ed/

Thanks! 

A little update on that, MAP-T is now default-on for all new customers of Sky Italia, and we've migrated about 95% of existing ones.

The stragglers are those with 3rd party CPEs, who we have now proactively sent communications to informing them of their impending migration before the end of the year.  The biggest issue is indeed lack of 3rd party CPE support, their only real other option is OpenWRT currently.

The Italian regulators have a "Modem Libero" policy that prevents operators locking customers into a particular CPE, so it would be great to see additional options become available. (If any CPE vendors want to reach out to me, I'd be happy to help discuss the requirements and offer up some inter-op testing)

-Rich

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