Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Fri, 10 April 2015 20:35 UTC
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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 08:35:36 +1200
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World
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On 11/04/2015 04:29, Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 10/04/2015 00:58, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> On 10/04/2015 09:07, Nick Hilliard wrote: >>> products are designed to a budget and a performance spec. There's no point >>> in building a router which will inspect 65536 byte packets for EH chains if >>> it's too expensive for anyone to buy, or if it trashes performance by >>> passing packets with headers that big. There is always a >>> cost/speed/features compromise. >> >> Of course. But we already changed the standard to limit this problem: >> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7112 > > a policy cannot change reality. At best it can hope to complement it. True. But fixing our specs and encouraging implementers to do the right thing are the only tools the IETF has. Brian
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … George Michaelson
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … sthaug
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Warren Kumari
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Merike Kaeo
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Merike Kaeo
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Jen Linkova
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Merike Kaeo
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Metzler, Dan J
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World George Michaelson
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Merike Kaeo
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Joe Touch
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Brian E Carpenter
- [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New Vers… Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Nick Hilliard
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Tim Chown
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Fernando Gont
- Re: [v6ops] IPv6 EHs in the Real World (Fwd: New … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World C. M. Heard
- Re: [v6ops] why IPv6 EHs in the Real World Alexandru Petrescu