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Re: [v6ops] IPR Disclosure Apple Inc.'s Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis

Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> Fri, 13 October 2017 08:39 UTC

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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 19:39:06 +1100
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] IPR Disclosure Apple Inc.'s Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis
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I look at them occasionally out of interest via the IETF Daily Dose page.
I've seen similar if not the same terms from other people like Cisco and
Juniper.

It seems many are building up defensive patent banks. Free to use by
anybody, but if you sue us for patent violation, then we reserve the right
to sue you back using our patents. If you want to avoid that, you can
license the patent from us.

That's my interpretation; I am of course not a lawyer.

On 13 Oct. 2017 6:41 pm, "Nick Hilliard" <nick@foobar.org> wrote:

> Erik Kline wrote:
> > I see this was submitted on "October 5, 2017".  I suppose now is the
> > chance for the working group to evaluate what this means and perhaps
> > reconsider this document's status?
>
> does the ietf have a position on ipr licensing terms with retaliatory
> clauses?  If so, this is less of a wg issue and more of an ietf issue.
>
> Nick
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