Re: [v6ops] Operational Guidance for IPv6 Deployment in IPv4 Sites using ISATAP

"Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> Wed, 25 May 2011 15:46 UTC

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Hi Remi and John,

Thanks for the input; I have made the necessary correction by removing the
non-technical text:

http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-templin-v6ops-isops-06.txt

John - I made the correction before seeing your proposed changes. I'll see if
it needs tweaking in the next version.

Remi - the 6rd citation is there but came earlier in the document. If you think
more is needed, please propose text.

Thanks - Fred

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Operational Guidance for IPv6 Deployment in IPv4 Sites using ISATAP


Le 24 mai 2011 à 23:12, John Mann (ITS) a écrit :

Fred,

I like ISATAP and your draft.

I also believe this draft is useful.

But I'm not sure about
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9. Alternative Approaches

...
IRON [RFC6179], RANGER [RFC5720], VET [RFC5558] and SEAL [RFC5320]
are a tribute to those in all walks of life who serve with dignity
and honor for the benefit of others.
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a) it seems out of place

+1

in that it doesn't discuss the method used or service provided by these protocols.

Besides these protocols are experimental, whereas ISATAP is standard track.

b) is it a round-about way of praising yourself in that you are the author of those protocols, and of this draft?

Not also that:
- 6to4, which has a different purpose, is complementary to ISATAP (it isn't an "alternative").
- If 6to4 would be nevertheless mentioned (at a time when it is known to be problematic and some consider it historic), 6rd would have to be mentioned too.

Suggestion: delete the section, and proceed with the remainder of the draft.

Regards,
RD





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Also in http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-templin-v6ops-isops-05#section-9
the text "[RFC4554]" doesn't web-link to  http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4554
But I can't tell if this is a original markup problem, or draft->html converter problem.

Thanks,
    John

On 24 May 2011 07:16, Templin, Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com<mailto:Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>> wrote:
Folks,

I am done tweaking this document now. Would appreciate
input, especially from those who have expressed interest
in ISATAP over the past several weeks.

Thanks - Fred
fred.l.templin@boeing.com<mailto:fred.l.templin@boeing.com>

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.

       Title           : Operational Guidance for IPv6 Deployment in IPv4 Sites using ISATAP
       Author(s)       : Fred L. Templin
       Filename        : draft-templin-v6ops-isops-05.txt
       Pages           : 26
       Date            : 2011-05-23

  Many end user sites in the Internet today still have predominantly
  IPv4 internal infrastructures.  These sites range in size from small
  home/office networks to large corporate enterprise networks, but
  share the commonality that IPv4 continues to provide satisfactory
  internal routing and addressing services for most applications.  As
  more and more IPv6-only services are deployed in the Internet,
  however, end user devices within such sites will increasingly require
  at least basic IPv6 functionality for external access.  It is also
  expected that more and more IPv6-only devices will be deployed within
  the site over time.  This document therefore provides operational
  guidance for deployment of IPv6 within predominantly IPv4 sites using
  the Intra-Site Automatic Tunnel Addressing Protocol (ISATAP).


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