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Re: [v6ops] On/off switch [draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs WGLC]

Rémi Després <despres.remi@free.fr> Mon, 10 October 2011 07:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] On/off switch [draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs WGLC]
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Le 8 oct. 2011 à 10:13, Fred Baker a écrit :

> 
> On Oct 7, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Dan Wing wrote:
> 
>> A compromise:  the specification will explain the benefit of making
>> the preference between IPv4 and IPv6 configurable.  It already has
>> text around that benefit, but we will make it clearer that the
>> value can be tweakable and explain an advantage or two of making
>> it tweakable.
> 
> seems rational to me.

Although configurable options should IMHO be avoided as much as possible, this is IMHO an acceptable compromise, but only if IPv6 is the default preference.

Thus, ordinary users, who don't know how to configure IP-layer options, will work in IPv6 with all popular servers (Google's etc.) wherever normal quality IPv6 connectivity exists.
They will thus be immune from any consequence of port shortages in NAT44s, possibly more and more frequent in the future.

RD

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