Re: [VCARDDAV] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6350 (7856)

[Robert Stepanek <[e-mail]>]

In context of this errata the right term might be "assigned sex" rather than just "sex". I am not sure, but that term came up when we talked with people about their requirements while working on JSContact.

Tangentially to this errata, we'll very soon publish a standard RFC that adds new vCard properties: GRAMGENDER and PRONOUNS: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-calext-vcard-jscontact-extensions-12.html

GRAMGENDER allows to set the _grammatical_ gender to use when addressing a contact. It does not say anything about assigned sex or gender identity. We found that most vCards currently use GENDER for grammatical use, such as salutations in German and the like.

PRONOUNS is a free text value and can be set for different contexts using the TYPE parameter.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2024, at 9:03 AM, Simon Perreault wrote:
> This interpretation matches my recollection of discussions at the time. 
> I agree that removing the word "biological" would better represent what 
> I remember consensus to have been.
> 
> Simon
> 
> Le 2024-03-18 à 14:28, Ryan Castellucci a écrit :
> > // I have replaced Simon's email address with one I believe to be current
> >
> > Per discussions at the time, e.g.
> >
> > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/vcarddav/ABQ2l80UXn61mMgJR-OOPq2VXqk/ 
> >
> >
> > sentiment seemed to be in favor of using "SEX" in a trans-inclusive way,
> > however the language was not revised accordingly.
> >
> > There appears to have been no discussion of whether use of the word
> > "biological" was appropriate.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ryan
> >
> > On 2024-03-18 18:03, RFC Errata System wrote:
> >> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6350,
> >> "vCard Format Specification".
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------
> >> You may review the report below and at:
> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid7856
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------
> >> Type: Technical
> >> Reported by: Ryan Castellucci <[e-mail]>
> >>
> >> Section: 6.2.7
> >>
> >> Original Text
> >> -------------
> >>    Special notes:  The components correspond, in sequence, to the sex
> >>       (biological), and gender identity.  Each component is optional.
> >>
> >> Corrected Text
> >> --------------
> >>    Special notes:  The components correspond, in sequence, to the sex
> >>       and gender identity.  Each component is optional.
> >>
> >> Notes
> >> -----
> >> The term "biological" in regards to sex does not have a widely agreed
> >> upon meaning, and is primarily used to discriminate against
> >> transgender people.
> >>
> >> Including the "biological" qualifier serves no purpose.
> >>
> >> Instructions:
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> >> --------------------------------------
> >> RFC6350 (draft-ietf-vcarddav-vcardrev-22)
> >> --------------------------------------
> >> Title               : vCard Format Specification
> >> Publication Date    : August 2011
> >> Author(s)           : S. Perreault
> >> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
> >> Source              : vCard and CardDAV
> >> Stream              : IETF
> >> Verifying Party     : IESG
> 
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