Re: [Vcon] Email metadata in vCon

[Orie Steele <[e-mail]>]

Context for Dan and Alexey:

- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-vcon
- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-petrie-vcon

We had some hallway conversations at IETF 119, about using vCon & SCITT for
transparency and archival purposes.

Regards,

OS

On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 2:44 PM Orie Steele <[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Adding a few email experts (I am not an email expert).
>
> These parameters look correct to me for vCon, but I am not sure if there
> are additional email details that should be considered for archival use
> cases.
>
> I also wonder if there is any encryption or signing information which
> might be retained in a useful way, such that a holder of a vCon and some
> trust roots might confirm that parts of a vCon have not been tampered with,
> without using the custom JOSE approaches in the draft today.
>
> I'm thinking specifically of the case where I might know that a Party had
> a particular key at a point in time, and I might be able to use that key to
> verify an email message that had been archived in vCon.
>
> I suppose there could also be DMARC / DKIM fields that we might expect to
> see preserved per message.
>
> Regards,
>
> OS
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 2:03 PM Dan Petrie <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Orie:
>> You are probably swamped, catching up after IETF 119.  When you have a
>> few minutes, it would be great to have your input on this.
>>
>> I think that you have worked with email in a vCon more than many people
>> have so far.  However, if anyone else on the list has any thoughts on this,
>> I would greatly appreciate your input too.
>>
>> I have done a little work putting email messages into a vCon, one message
>> per dialog.  Mostly, my use was in some simple unit tests and in generating
>> examples for the I-D.  The table below maps the SMTP headers that I have
>> put into a vCon.
>>
>> Are there any other SMTP header fields or metadata that you think should
>> be possible to include in a vCon?
>>
>> Do you agree with the mapping from SMTP to vCon parameters?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dan
>>
>> [image: Inline image]
>>
>>
>>
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