[Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principal layer above bot authentication
Songbo Bu <bluedognull@gmail.com> Sun, 09 August 2026 13:01 UTC
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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2026 21:00:15 +0800
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Subject: [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principal layer above bot authentication
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Nenad, all, This is a useful post-execution evidence layer, but I would keep it separate from the identity and authority layers rather than letting an audit-chain result absorb their claims. In the principal-binding model, I would initially map the contract across five rows: - C-005: which protected fields bind the record to the same action or governed event; - C-007: which recorder, witness, key, retained prefix, and evolution boundary authenticate the evidence; - C-010: how mission, principal, authorization, runtime, and admission records compose without changing their meanings; - C-011: the constrained result a consumer may accept after verification; and - C-012: whether the record is pre-execution authority, post-execution attribution, execution evidence, or audit enforcement. The key boundary is that tamper-evident does not mean true, complete, authorized, independently witnessed, or successfully executed. A signing key can anchor attribution under an explicit enrollment and key-control rule, but it does not establish mission authority or human consent by itself. I checked the public coordinates you supplied. PR 3004 was open and unmerged at head: 377f8d260ded5b6854871b2ce3c73621ffcaef1d The PR names the vector implementation pin: notboatanchor/gif@e1f02a95506e81e7766c3ba3a684ecad7cfff12f I have not converted the PR's reported 23/23 result into independent evidence. The attached note records a bounded reproduction and mapping plan, including retained-prefix verification, truncation, fabricated evolution boundaries, witness disagreement, downgrade to unattested records, canonicalization ambiguity, algorithm transition, and conflicting continuations. Before adding a protocol mapping to the draft, the most useful evidence would be: 1. a manifest for the exact vector and verifier files; 2. the expected constrained result for each negative case, not only pass/fail; 3. the witness independence and disagreement rule; 4. an algorithm-transition vector that preserves the prior prefix without rewriting it; and 5. the exact command and environment needed to reproduce the corpus. If you publish those pins and artifacts in this thread, I can run the corpus independently and return a C-005/C-007/C-010/C-011/C-012 mapping with every scenario labeled measured, not-run, or not-applicable. Best, Songbo
- [Web-bot-auth] Interest in the human-principal la… Blake
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Songbo Bu
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Srecko Jovancevic
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Dick Hardt
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Thibault Meunier
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… ~blake
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Dick Hardt
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… ~blake
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Dick Hardt
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Blake
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Dick Hardt
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Kaveh Ranjbar
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Blake
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Kaveh Ranjbar
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Nick Mathews
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Joshua Ashcroft
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Nick Mathews
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Dick Hardt
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Nenad Vasic
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Songbo Bu
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Nenad Vasic
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Nenad Vasic
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Songbo Bu
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Joshua Ashcroft
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Joshua Ashcroft
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Aurélien Brézun
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… David Schinazi
- [Web-bot-auth] Re: Interest in the human-principa… Joshua Ashcroft