Re: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting
"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Thu, 01 August 2013 15:12 UTC
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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting
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Hi Marcos, thanks for the follow-up. I didn't find that there was particularly warm response to any of the options. That's why I believe the whole topic needs more R&D in general. Sorry if that should've been more explicit in that note. -MSK On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Marcos Sanz <sanz@denic.de> wrote: > Murray, > all, > > I felt in the room a strong push back to the *concrete* DNS bootstrapping > solution as described in > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-00 > , which I do not find in your summary. > > FWIW: I also personally find this bootstrapping implementation A Bad Idea. > And for clarification: I am not against DNS bootstrapping in general. > > Best, > Marcos > > weirds-bounces@ietf.org wrote on 01/08/2013 12:25:11: > > > Von: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> > > An: "weirds@ietf.org" <weirds@ietf.org>, > > Datum: 01/08/2013 12:28 > > Betreff: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting > > Gesendet von: weirds-bounces@ietf.org > > > > Colleagues, > > > It's my understanding that our paths forward are as follows, based > > on today's meeting: > > > Search: > > 1) We will roll a rudimentary search capability into the rdap-query > > document, and repeat Working Group Last Call focusing on the new > > material once it's added. I have changed its state in the tracker > > back to "WG Document", and set a new milestone of November. That > > means a second WGLC will start in early to mid October. Please let > > me know if you think that's too aggressive or not aggressive enough. > > > 2) The working group can decide on a specific syntax on the mailing > > list. It didn't make sense to dedicate precious microphone time to > > discussing that this morning, especially since the two proposed > > syntaxes on the summary slide are so similar. This seems like a > > coin flip to me, but the working group can decide however it wishes. > > > 3) The working group will need to explore which fields will be > > searchable, and which capabilities (ordering, paging) need to be > > supported. This will be predicated on what current registries are > > doing, or what things registries are pledging to implement. It > > sounds like Scott did some of that research already to get us > > started; the group should continue to explore this and come up with > > a proposed set of capabilities. > > > 4) We will not work on advanced search, or adopt a separate document > > for basic search, at this point. > > > 5) Basic search will be specified, but will not be required to implement. > > > > 6) We need internationalization clue here. I'll see if I can secure > some. > > > 7) The results of the search work will impact the JSON response document. > > > Object Inventory: > > 1) This is now an official milestone. I've set it for October of > > this year, meaning WGLC around late September. Again, please let me > > know if this needs to be changed in either direction. I will act as > > document shepherd. The group should review the document and send > > comments to the mailing list so we can get it ready for a Working > > Group Last Call; I expect this will be pretty painless. > > > Redirects: > > 1) We have more work to do in this area, especially since it's tied > > to bootstrapping. This remains an active WG item. I've set a > > milestone of November on this one as well, but it can be adjusted. > > > Bootstrapping: > > 1) This one appears to need the most R&D by the working group. > > Fortunately, a lot of good discussion occurred at the mic today. We > > will ensure this issue, and redirection, get ample time at the > > microphone in Vancouver. > > > > 2) There is no single WG document for this yet; two are proposed for > > adoption now, and some hybrid model was also proposed in the meeting > > today. When that third draft appears, we can do a (probably > > extended) call for adoption in order to choose a path forward. > > > 3) I will create a milestone for this. I presume Pete will approve > > it given its obvious necessity and the attention it's getting, but > > he might surprise me. :-) > > > Please let me know if I got any of this wrong, or if any of the > > actions or dates need adjustment. > > > -MSK, WEIRDS co-chair > > _______________________________________________ > > weirds mailing list > > weirds@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/weirds > >
- [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting Marcos Sanz
- Re: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting John Levine
- Re: [weirds] Bootstrapping update John Levine
- Re: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo