Re: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Thu, 01 August 2013 15:12 UTC

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From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting
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Hi Marcos, thanks for the follow-up.

I didn't find that there was particularly warm response to any of the
options.  That's why I believe the whole topic needs more R&D in general.
Sorry if that should've been more explicit in that note.

-MSK


On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Marcos Sanz <sanz@denic.de> wrote:

> Murray,
> all,
>
> I felt in the room a strong push back to the *concrete* DNS bootstrapping
> solution as described in
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-00
> , which I do not find in your summary.
>
> FWIW: I also personally find this bootstrapping implementation A Bad Idea.
> And for clarification: I am not against DNS bootstrapping in general.
>
> Best,
> Marcos
>
> weirds-bounces@ietf.org wrote on 01/08/2013 12:25:11:
>
> > Von: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
> > An: "weirds@ietf.org" <weirds@ietf.org>,
> > Datum: 01/08/2013 12:28
> > Betreff: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting
> > Gesendet von: weirds-bounces@ietf.org
> >
> > Colleagues,
>
> > It's my understanding that our paths forward are as follows, based
> > on today's meeting:
>
> > Search:
> > 1) We will roll a rudimentary search capability into the rdap-query
> > document, and repeat Working Group Last Call focusing on the new
> > material once it's added.  I have changed its state in the tracker
> > back to "WG Document", and set a new milestone of November.  That
> > means a second WGLC will start in early to mid October.  Please let
> > me know if you think that's too aggressive or not aggressive enough.
>
> > 2) The working group can decide on a specific syntax on the mailing
> > list.  It didn't make sense to dedicate precious microphone time to
> > discussing that this morning, especially since the two proposed
> > syntaxes on the summary slide are so similar.  This seems like a
> > coin flip to me, but the working group can decide however it wishes.
>
> > 3) The working group will need to explore which fields will be
> > searchable, and which capabilities (ordering, paging) need to be
> > supported.  This will be predicated on what current registries are
> > doing, or what things registries are pledging to implement.  It
> > sounds like Scott did some of that research already to get us
> > started; the group should continue to explore this and come up with
> > a proposed set of capabilities.
>
> > 4) We will not work on advanced search, or adopt a separate document
> > for basic search, at this point.
>
> > 5) Basic search will be specified, but will not be required to implement.
> >
> > 6) We need internationalization clue here.  I'll see if I can secure
> some.
>
> > 7) The results of the search work will impact the JSON response document.
>
> > Object Inventory:
> > 1) This is now an official milestone.  I've set it for October of
> > this year, meaning WGLC around late September.  Again, please let me
> > know if this needs to be changed in either direction.  I will act as
> > document shepherd.  The group should review the document and send
> > comments to the mailing list so we can get it ready for a Working
> > Group Last Call; I expect this will be pretty painless.
>
> > Redirects:
> > 1) We have more work to do in this area, especially since it's tied
> > to bootstrapping.  This remains an active WG item.  I've set a
> > milestone of November on this one as well, but it can be adjusted.
>
> > Bootstrapping:
> > 1) This one appears to need the most R&D by the working group.
> > Fortunately, a lot of good discussion occurred at the mic today.  We
> > will ensure this issue, and redirection, get ample time at the
> > microphone in Vancouver.
> >
> > 2) There is no single WG document for this yet; two are proposed for
> > adoption now, and some hybrid model was also proposed in the meeting
> > today.  When that third draft appears, we can do a (probably
> > extended) call for adoption in order to choose a path forward.
>
> > 3) I will create a milestone for this.  I presume Pete will approve
> > it given its obvious necessity and the attention it's getting, but
> > he might surprise me.  :-)
>
> > Please let me know if I got any of this wrong, or if any of the
> > actions or dates need adjustment.
>
> > -MSK, WEIRDS co-chair
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