Re: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting

Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca> Fri, 02 August 2013 11:52 UTC

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Le 2013-08-01 à 16:41, Marcos Sanz <sanz@denic.de> a écrit :

> Murray,
> all,
> 
> I felt in the room a strong push back

I'm sorry. that is not my reading. I've heard a mix of support and not. 

Having said that, I'm agnostic to any and wanted to have a good discussion on the way forward which I think we (somewhat) achieved in the time we had.

Marc.

> to the *concrete* DNS bootstrapping solution as described in
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-00
> , which I do not find in your summary.
> 
> FWIW: I also personally find this bootstrapping implementation A Bad Idea. And for clarification: I am not against DNS bootstrapping in general.
> 
> Best,
> Marcos
> 
> weirds-bounces@ietf.org wrote on 01/08/2013 12:25:11:
> 
>> Von: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
>> An: "weirds@ietf.org" <weirds@ietf.org>,
>> Datum: 01/08/2013 12:28
>> Betreff: [weirds] Outcomes of today's meeting
>> Gesendet von: weirds-bounces@ietf.org
>> 
>> Colleagues,
> 
>> It's my understanding that our paths forward are as follows, based
>> on today's meeting:
> 
>> Search:
>> 1) We will roll a rudimentary search capability into the rdap-query
>> document, and repeat Working Group Last Call focusing on the new
>> material once it's added.  I have changed its state in the tracker
>> back to "WG Document", and set a new milestone of November.  That
>> means a second WGLC will start in early to mid October.  Please let
>> me know if you think that's too aggressive or not aggressive enough.
> 
>> 2) The working group can decide on a specific syntax on the mailing
>> list.  It didn't make sense to dedicate precious microphone time to
>> discussing that this morning, especially since the two proposed
>> syntaxes on the summary slide are so similar.  This seems like a
>> coin flip to me, but the working group can decide however it wishes.
> 
>> 3) The working group will need to explore which fields will be
>> searchable, and which capabilities (ordering, paging) need to be
>> supported.  This will be predicated on what current registries are
>> doing, or what things registries are pledging to implement.  It
>> sounds like Scott did some of that research already to get us
>> started; the group should continue to explore this and come up with
>> a proposed set of capabilities.
> 
>> 4) We will not work on advanced search, or adopt a separate document
>> for basic search, at this point.
> 
>> 5) Basic search will be specified, but will not be required to implement.
>> 
>> 6) We need internationalization clue here.  I'll see if I can secure some.
> 
>> 7) The results of the search work will impact the JSON response document.
> 
>> Object Inventory:
>> 1) This is now an official milestone.  I've set it for October of
>> this year, meaning WGLC around late September.  Again, please let me
>> know if this needs to be changed in either direction.  I will act as
>> document shepherd.  The group should review the document and send
>> comments to the mailing list so we can get it ready for a Working
>> Group Last Call; I expect this will be pretty painless.
> 
>> Redirects:
>> 1) We have more work to do in this area, especially since it's tied
>> to bootstrapping.  This remains an active WG item.  I've set a
>> milestone of November on this one as well, but it can be adjusted.
> 
>> Bootstrapping:
>> 1) This one appears to need the most R&D by the working group.
>> Fortunately, a lot of good discussion occurred at the mic today.  We
>> will ensure this issue, and redirection, get ample time at the
>> microphone in Vancouver.
>> 
>> 2) There is no single WG document for this yet; two are proposed for
>> adoption now, and some hybrid model was also proposed in the meeting
>> today.  When that third draft appears, we can do a (probably
>> extended) call for adoption in order to choose a path forward.
> 
>> 3) I will create a milestone for this.  I presume Pete will approve
>> it given its obvious necessity and the attention it's getting, but
>> he might surprise me.  :-)
> 
>> Please let me know if I got any of this wrong, or if any of the
>> actions or dates need adjustment.
> 
>> -MSK, WEIRDS co-chair
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