Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-response-json-00.txt
"Ning Kong" <nkong@cnnic.cn> Tue, 12 June 2012 14:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-response-json-00.txt
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Hi Patrick, > Thanks for this, Ning. My pleasure. > I have some comments regarding 3.3.1. Objects in the Contact Response > > Say the registry has a policy that does not allow the display of all or part of > the contact info to the querying party We could either > > - not return the corresponding field > - return the field name, but with an empty value > - return the field name, and a field value that could be either > - a text string saying the value cannot be displayed by policy, > whose content is up to the registry operator > - a return code, sort of like HTTP 401 that would indicate the > querying party is not authorized to view that information. I think you put forward a general issue. IMO, the HTTP draft (draft-designteam-weirds-using-http-00) as the common infrastructure document is suitable to cover this point. For example, a new section (e.g. 5.5 Unauthorized Answers) may be added to propose the corresponding response mechanisms. BTW, I think another optional response which might also be considered for this scenario is that returning not only the field name and a text saying the querying party is not authorized, but also a reference to tell the requester how to acquire the authorized answers. Through this reference, if the requester can meet the corresponding requirements (e.g. providing correct authentication info or a token authorized by the owner), he/she can further acquire the authorized answers. To consider this kind of response, the authentication mechanism of RESTful WHOIS services needs to be correspondingly designed. > As for the fields themselves, it has been pointed out that telefax numbers are > of little use these days, and that other channels of communications may be > more responsive. Facebook and Twitter come to mind. However, these > type of services come and go,. They might be out of fashion by the time the > work of this WG gets actually deployed. So, I wonder whether we should consider discarding some traditional WHOIS data elements or adopting some new fashionable ones (e.g. IM, SNS) as basic fields. > There should be a mechanism that allows for the extension of the contact > information, without requiring an update the corresponding RFCs. We have the extension interface in the draft. Do you think this can meet the above requirement? Cheers, Ning
- [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-respo… Ning Kong
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Alex Sergeyev
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-respo… Andy Newton
- [weirds] I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-response-… Alex Sergeyev
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Patrick Vande Walle
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Ning Kong
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Patrick Vande Walle
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Ning Kong
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Bob Bruen
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Bob Bruen
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Bob Bruen
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Bob Bruen
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-respo… "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight"
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [weirds] decomposition and redaction, was FW:… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] decomposition and redaction, was FW:… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [weirds] decomposition and redaction, was FW:… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] decomposition and redaction, was FW:… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [weirds] decomposition and redaction, was FW:… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Linlin Zhou
- Re: [weirds] decomposition and redaction, was FW:… Alex Sergeyev
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Bob Bruen
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight"
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-respo… "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight"
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Alan Maitland
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Alan Maitland
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Alan Maitland
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Alan Maitland
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… SM
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Don Blumenthal
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-respo… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-respo… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-respo… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-respo… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Alan Maitland
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-respo… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-respo… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Eric Brunner-Williams
- Re: [weirds] FW: I-D Action: draft-kong-dnrd-ap-r… Bob Bruen