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Re: [weirds] Domain Reputation in RDAP

Dave Piscitello <dave.piscitello@icann.org> Tue, 08 December 2015 15:12 UTC

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From: Dave Piscitello <dave.piscitello@icann.org>
To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [weirds] Domain Reputation in RDAP
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Could this also be some 'car fax' indicator that discloses whether a domain has been block listed, when, by whom, for reason? While some ICANN heads might explode others might be curious to understand what framework or policy obligation this would imply.

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On Dec 8, 2015, at 03:35, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com<mailto:superuser@gmail.com>> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:08 AM, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com<mailto:johnl@taugh.com>> wrote:
In article <CAAQiQRdMCUn1UNeNhB3XukBpnNMiCWLdyijgtytp91WsNEx07w@mail.gmail.com<mailto:CAAQiQRdMCUn1UNeNhB3XukBpnNMiCWLdyijgtytp91WsNEx07w@mail.gmail.com>> you write:
>Hmm... that depends. Is the idea to provide meta-data so a reputation
>can be determined, or is the idea to actually provide a reputation?

The former, I hope.  The latter would, among other things, make some
heads at ICANN explode.

I agree that historical data such as registration date, or last time
contact info or DNS changed would be useful.

+1.

-MSK
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