Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-ianaregistries-00.txt
"John R Levine" <johnl@taugh.com> Mon, 24 June 2013 01:47 UTC
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Subject: Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-ianaregistries-00.txt
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>>> How would a client bootstrap a query for 29.12.202.in-addr.arpa ? >> >> It would look at arpa.domains.rdap.arpa to get the name of the RDAP >> server for .arpa, if there were one. I expect that's not the answer >> to the question you meant to ask. > > Presumably, the server for .arpa is then going to redirect the client to > the appropriate RDAP server for the specific resource associated with the > reverse domain being queried. Uh, no. Since arpa is a TLD, it'll find you the RDAP server for the .arpa TLD, which will tell you something about the people at IANA who manage it. As I said, this is probably not the question you meant to ask. It's worth noting somewhere that asking about the rDNS name associated with an IP address is not the same as asking about that IP address. Name and number queries are different, different question syntax and different answer syntax. >> If you're asking how to bootstrap a query for 202.12.29.0/24, or >> 2001:0400::/22, my proposal is that the numbers bootstraps are built >> into the clients, with informal advice to update them every year or >> two, sort of like the root zone hints in a DNS cache. ... > I don't mind this approach; is there suitable RFC wording that would allow > clients to have confidence that asking one of the numbers bootstrap > servers will get you to the right place for the answer you seek? This is the IETF, so we can't force anyone to do anything. But assuming the RIRs are willing, we could put in language along the lines of what I suggested a couple of messages ago. R's, John
- [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-b… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weir… Linlin Zhou
- Re: [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weir… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-iana… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weir… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-iana… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weir… John R Levine
- Re: [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weir… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weir… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weir… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weir… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weir… John R Levine
- Re: [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weir… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weir… Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: [weirds] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weir… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-iana… Linlin Zhou
- Re: [weirds] draft-blanchet-weirds-bootstrap-iana… John R Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Simon Perreault
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Pieter Vandepitte
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John R Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Ernie Dainow
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John R Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John R Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Arturo Servin
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Arturo Servin
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Andy Newton
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John R Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John R Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Ernie Dainow
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John R Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John R Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Byron Ellacott
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Arturo Servin
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Arturo Servin
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Tony Hansen
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Arturo Servin
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Kim Davies
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Byron Ellacott
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John R Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Byron Ellacott
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Byron Ellacott
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John R Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John R. Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Linlin Zhou
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John R Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John Levine
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [weirds] I-D Action: draft-blanchet-weirds-bo… John R Levine