RE: RSWG at IETF 119

Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Fri, 22 December 2023 20:16 UTC

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From: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
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Subject: RE: RSWG at IETF 119
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 20:14:00 -0000
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Nice solution, Michael.

I believe I would participate in virtual interims. The chance of being able to make it to an in-person meeting is down to random chance with the conflicts.

Ah, well, early morning, lunch time, evening are all also possible. They certainly don't conflict with other scheduled WG sessions, but they do crunch into all sorts of other stuff.

A

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From: WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Michael Richardson
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To: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>; Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net>; IETF WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: RSWG at IETF 119


Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote:
    > What do you suggest?

I think that getting enough cross-community input for RSWG requires way too
many conflicts to be resolved.  So I suggest RSWG have virtual interim
meetings only.

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