Re: Making YouTube videos work better for IETF/IRTF participants

Ian Swett <ianswett@google.com> Sat, 31 July 2021 15:48 UTC

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From: Ian Swett <ianswett@google.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2021 11:47:59 -0400
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Subject: Re: Making YouTube videos work better for IETF/IRTF participants
To: "MORTON JR., AL" <acmorton@att.com>
Cc: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>, WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>, "irsg@irtf.org Steering Group" <irsg@irtf.org>
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I think this is a good suggestion.

I tried searching for 'ietf110 MASQUE' and 'ietf100 quic', and the results
seemed quite good, but YMMV.



On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 10:54 AM MORTON JR., AL <acmorton@att.com> wrote:

> Spence wrote:
>
> Would your working group/research group participants find making
> your YouTube videos helpful?
>
>
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> Sure, it can be very helpful to review the recording,
>
>
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> and
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> ...that searching for a specific video from a specific IETF meeting
> doesn't work super well.
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> I’d rather not to search too long for resources, either.
>
> Al
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> *From:* WGChairs <wgchairs-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Spencer
> Dawkins at IETF
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 31, 2021 10:31 AM
> *To:* WG Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>; irsg@irtf.org Steering Group <
> irsg@irtf.org>
> *Subject:* Making YouTube videos work better for IETF/IRTF participants
>
>
>
> I hope everyone had a lovely IETF 111, and rested up at least a little
> before starting to read IETF e-mail.
>
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> So, full disclosure,I REALLY miss having MeetEcho posting archival videos
> that synchronized the chat with the speakers and slides, etc. but we're
> where we are now, so I'm going with that, and want to make a positive
> suggestion.
>
>
>
> Making our session videos available on YouTube is in many ways a good
> thing for making them accessible to the world, but my recent experience
> poking around at IETF videos on YouTube has been that searching for a
> specific video from a specific IETF meeting doesn't work super well. Feel
> free to try this, for past meetings of your own groups, and see what else
> pops up along the way.
>
>
>
> Rather than hoping that situation changes, I'm wondering if it's worth
> putting links to IETF meeting session YouTube videos in the datatracker for
> various groups under "Meetings", so I can "view all the past session videos
> for QUIC, in order" without having to wander through spurious matches with
> other videos, trying to remember if the group actually met at IETF 108, not
> knowing whether a video has been uploaded from a session earlier in the
> week, and stuff like that.
>
>
>
> Specifically, I'm thinking about requesting that we either add a "Meeting
> VIdeos" selection to pages like
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/quic/meetings/
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/wg/quic/meetings/__;!!BhdT!yoI49bJgf1qpJSmPLsa1_oisx4DmSdxLVbkMKMxSaRspaLfQRULAJmcIeKRrmyY$>,
> or just include them as part of the "Meeting Materials" for each meeting,
> perhaps appearing with the agenda, minutes, and blue sheets at the top of
> pages like https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/session/quic
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/session/quic__;!!BhdT!yoI49bJgf1qpJSmPLsa1_oisx4DmSdxLVbkMKMxSaRspaLfQRULAJmcIiqKfEds$>
> .
>
>
>
> Obviously, working group/research group co-chairs could add that to the
> minutes, if they remember to do that, and are in a part of the world where
> YouTube isn't blocked, but it would be better if that happened
> automagically(*) when the YouTube video is uploaded, so we could pretty
> much count on them being available. So, if I'm going to ask someone else to
> do work, I should start with the goal in mind.
>
>
>
> Would your working group/research group participants find making
> your YouTube videos helpful?
>
>
>
> Please share your thoughts, when you have a moment.
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>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Spencer
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>
>
> (*) I mean "automagically from the working group/research group chair
> perspective". I've had too many conversations with secretariat folk, Greg
> Woods, and tools team members to think that ANYTHING around here happens by
> accident 😀
>