Re: [Wish] draft charter

Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> Fri, 18 December 2020 22:54 UTC

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From: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 17:53:55 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Wish] draft charter
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I’m happy to put in a milestone for Dec 2021, or whatever other month the
proponents want to use.  Murray’s going to get this WG, so I’ve added him
to the TO list in case he wants to comment.

Barry

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:22 PM Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:

> On 12/11/20 13:24, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) wrote:
> > I had a look at the draft charter at
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-wish/.
> > Overall, it looks pretty good to me, but I do have a couple questions.
> >
> > 1) Is the intent that any WebRTC server, and any WebRTC client, be able
> to use this protocol to establish a one way media session to forward its
> own view of the WebRTC media streams, with or without any alteration, to a
> broadcast network?
>
>
> Server-to-server isn't really in scope, although a server taking media
> that it is receiving and setting up a rebroadcast for it using WISH is
> certainly possible.
>
>
> > 2) I understood from the dispatch session, the time frame for this work
> to complete is expected to be relatively short. It would be helpful to see
> milestones with anticipated dates for completion.
>
>
> Definitely a good point! Notionally, this is your typical "as long as it
> takes but not any longer" desideratum, but we should have goals. I'd
> love to see a single milestone that is "submit WISH document to IESG for
> publication" with a date sometime in 2021. I know this is aggressive,
> but I'm using MARTINI as my idealized model, and we managed to go from
> first draft to publication requested in 13 months.
>
> /a
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