[Witarea] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: How to make an elegant IPv4 outage

[S Moonesamy <[e-mail]>]

Hi Phillip, Tim,
At 02:49 PM 12-06-2026, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>On Fri, Jun 12, 2026 at 5:32 AM Tim Chown <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Perhaps we need to start 
>draft-v6ops-ipv6-dinosaurs and start to name and 
>shame such organisations and what they're doing 
>wrong… politte but objective critique and pointers in the doc to best practice.
>
>Tim
>
>
>No, we need the exact opposite. We need branding 
>people can recognize as meaning that an ISP is 
>providing an Internet service that is fit for a particular purpose.
>
>So we do an RFC that sets out distinct levels of 
>service with some indication of currency.
>
>INET-M-26: Mobile service, provides single 
>dynamic IPv6 plus IPv4 which may be behind a wide-cone NAT.
>
>INET-R-26: Residential service, provides dynamic 
>IPv6/64 plus an IPv4 connection that may be behind a wide-cone NAT
>
>INET-S-26: Standard hosting service, provides 
>one or more static IPv4 addresses plus a static IPv6/64.
>
>INET-H-26: High availability hosting service, 
>routes IPv4 and IPv6 traffic to an ASN held by the end customer.
>
>We can tweak names and service levels as people 
>see fit. But the core should be that the end 
>user gets everything they need to interoperate 
>with the old Internet plus full access to the new.

The was a discussion on the deepspace mailing 
list about whether the policies for IPv6 was 
better suited for communities external to the 
IETF.  The "level of service" discussion would 
also be suited for those communities if they are 
drawing up the policies.  As for what 
organizations are doing wrong, I would have to 
look into their constraints to be able to say anything about that.

The requirement for interoperability may be 
relevant to this community.  I am not sure 
whether there is such a requirement 
externally.  My guess is that non-technical 
people expect things which were working yesterday 
should work today.  A person generally does not 
have to bother with the addressing aspect as 
there is a device which handles that automatically.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy