Re: [xml2rfc-dev] [rfc-i] RFC 8661 in AUTH48, was: [v3] Please help review v3 files

Heather Flanagan <rse@rfc-editor.org> Wed, 18 September 2019 20:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc-dev] [rfc-i] RFC 8661 in AUTH48, was: [v3] Please help review v3 files
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> On Sep 17, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> On 03.08.2019 14:51, Julian Reschke wrote:
>> ... >
>>> ... >> The contributors section in both documents looks terrible in HTML.
>> Probably because there is no defined way to add contributors in a way
>> that renders in a manner consistent with authors in text formats, so the
>> authors choose to use <pre>/<artwork> for that section.  We need to fix
>> that somehow.
>>> 
>>> Right - that was the only way we could get the info to display similar
>>> to Authors’ Addresses.
>>> We will discuss this.
>> 
>> Please discuss here:
>> <https://github.com/rfc-format/draft-iab-xml2rfc-v3-bis/issues/81>
>> ...
> 
> FWIW, RFC 8661 (in AUTH48) has that problem.
> 
> Would be good to resolve it in some way before publication.

HI Julian, et al.,

The RFC Editor discussed this internally; we recognize it as a problem for more than just RFC-to-be 8661. That said, for now we’re going to use a work around, as the implementing of a new way of handling the role of “contributor” is outside the existing scope of work. 

The plan for now is touse <artwork> element. Yes, it will look differently than Authors' Addresses in the HTML and PDF outputs. It is not ideal.

The future solution (TBD) may have us creating the role “contributor” and having that signal specific rendering details within the Contributor section. 

This isn’t a showstopper for going live with v3.

-Heather