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Re: [xml2rfc] Differentiating prepped from unprepared documents

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Wed, 22 June 2022 12:41 UTC

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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] Differentiating prepped from unprepared documents
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Am 22.06.2022 um 14:09 schrieb Jay Daley:
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Thanks for the summary, Jay.

I personally think that XML namespaces are exactly the right approach,
but then their popularity seems to be limited.

In any case; a recipient of an rfcxml file needs to be able to
distinguish authored content from generated content. This works ok for
<toc> and <boilerplate>, but currently fails spectacularly for the
author's section and the index (which are added as regular sections).
Tools that process rfcxml currently need heuristics to detect these
inserted sections in order to ignore them.

I'm ok with any approach that gives us that clear distinction.

Best regards, Julian

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