Re: [xml2rfc] referencing an old ID as expired

Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> Tue, 05 May 2020 16:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] referencing an old ID as expired
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Julian,

On 5/5/20 11:12 AM, Julian Reschke wrote:
> On 05.05.2020 16:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>> I want to reference an old ID for various reasons.  The ID is expired
>> and no xml.  So I created my own ref section:
>>
>> <reference anchor="draft.moskowitz-hip-arch-02">
>> <front>
>>      <title>Host Identity Payload</title>
>>      <author initials="R" surname="Moskowitz" fullname="Robert 
>> Moskowitz">
>>      <organization/>
>>      </author>
>>      <date month="February" day="22" year="2001"/>
>>      <abstract>
>>      <t>
>>      This memo describes the reasoning behind proposing a new namespace,
>> the Host Identity, and a payload, between the Internetworking and
>> Transport layers, the Host layer, to carry this identity. Herein is
>> presented the basics of the current namespaces, strengths and
>> weaknesses, and how a new namespace will add completeness to them. This
>> new namespace's roles in the protocols are defined.
>>      </t>
>>      </abstract>
>> </front>
>> <seriesInfo name="Internet-Draft" value="draft-moskowitz-hip-arch-02"/>
>> <format type="TXT"
>> target="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-hip-arch-02.txt"/> 
>>
>
> There's no point in adding the <format> element. It doesn't do anything.
>
>> </reference>
>>
>> And got:
>>
>>     [draft.moskowitz-hip-arch-02]
>>                Moskowitz, R., "Host Identity Payload", Work in Progress,
>>                Internet-Draft, draft-moskowitz-hip-arch-02, 22 February
>>                2001,
>> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moskowitz-hip-arch-02>.
>>
>>
>> How do I change this from "Work in Progress" to "Expired"?
>
> The RFC Style Guide requires that internet drafts are cited as "work in
> progress", so this is what the formatter inserts automatically.
>
> If you want to avoid that, you can't use the seriesinfo name attribute
> of "Internet-Draft". This
>
>   <seriesInfo name="expired Internet-Draft"
> value="draft-moskowitz-hip-arch-02"/>
>
> might roughly do what you want.

Yes it did:

    [draft.moskowitz-hip-arch-02]
               Moskowitz, R., "Host Identity Payload", Expired Internet-
               Draft draft-moskowitz-hip-arch-02, 22 February 2001.

Thanks.


>
> (And if it does, you'll have to supply the URI in the reference's target
> attribute manually)
>
>
> Best regards, Julian
>
> PS: if this document gets into AUTH48, you may have to back this out :-)-
>
> PPS: and yes, this is bad. We had a whole committee discussing
> references to internet drafts 10 years ago and couldn't fix that.