Re: [104attendees] Time change in Europe

"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Mon, 01 April 2019 13:52 UTC

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From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 09:52:28 -0400
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Subject: Re: [104attendees] Time change in Europe
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There is a proposal to move the New England states to the Atlantic Time
Zone (GMT-4) and abolish summer time. The effect would be the same as
staying in the Eastern time zone with permanent summer time.

Cheers,
Andy


On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 5:24 PM Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
wrote:

> If the US votes to go daylight time all year round, I am going to start a
> movement to get Michigan to Central time.  We really are completely in the
> Central zone.  The placement in the Eastern zone was pushed by businesses
> that wanted to be in the same timezone as Wall Street.
>
> When we had double daylight during Carter and there were a number of
> school children fatalities going to school, they at least split the Upper
> Peninsula.  But really all of Michigan needs to move to Central time.
>
> As for Europe, consider where Spain is in relation to England.  It is also
> in the wrong timezone.
>
> On 3/30/19 10:02 PM, Filip Skokan wrote:
>
> Fun fact. Each country may adopt that directive in their own way. Fingers crossed we won’t end up with +- 1 hour in the same timezone ;)
>
> Odesláno z iPhonu
>
> 30. 3. 2019 v 21:52, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> <cabo@tzi.org>:
>
>
> On Mar 30, 2019, at 21:31, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:
>
> For those Americans in EU Saturday night, we get to leap forward a 2nd time this year...
>
> Remember to set your watches.  Again!
>
> Yes, I almost missed a flight already because the US and EU don’t even think about aligning their “daylight savings” [NOT!] times.
>
> Good that at least the EU is getting rid of this satire [2] turned into law, in 2021 [1].
>
> Grüße, Carsten
>
> [1]: https://www.dw.com/en/eu-parliament-votes-to-end-daylight-savings/a-48064185
> [2]: https://www.dw.com/en/summertime-what-a-joke/a-45302669
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