Re: [104attendees] Time change in Europe

New Hampshire came up with this trick as a way to expedite the approval process for the change. But they don’t want to do it unless the other states around them do it too.

The current rules in the US allow the states to opt-in or opt-out of daylight savings time.  They can permanently opt-out but not permanently opt-in without congressional approval. But they can change their current time zone with only agency approval. This is a lower bar to cross. So changing their time zone to one east and then opting out permanently has the effect of opting in permanently in their current time zone.

Retail support is strong for permanent daylight savings time so it will eventually happen because of their strong lobby but there is resistance in the agriculture sector.

Tom

> On Apr 1, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There is a proposal to move the New England states to the Atlantic Time Zone (GMT-4) and abolish summer time. The effect would be the same as staying in the Eastern time zone with permanent summer time.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andy
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 5:24 PM Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:
>> If the US votes to go daylight time all year round, I am going to start a movement to get Michigan to Central time.  We really are completely in the Central zone.  The placement in the Eastern zone was pushed by businesses that wanted to be in the same timezone as Wall Street.
>> 
>> When we had double daylight during Carter and there were a number of school children fatalities going to school, they at least split the Upper Peninsula.  But really all of Michigan needs to move to Central time.
>> 
>> As for Europe, consider where Spain is in relation to England.  It is also in the wrong timezone.
>> 
>>> On 3/30/19 10:02 PM, Filip Skokan wrote:
>>> Fun fact. Each country may adopt that directive in their own way. Fingers crossed we won’t end up with +- 1 hour in the same timezone ;)
>>> 
>>> Odesláno z iPhonu
>>> 
>>> 30. 3. 2019 v 21:52, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>:
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2019, at 21:31, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> For those Americans in EU Saturday night, we get to leap forward a 2nd time this year...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Remember to set your watches.  Again!
>>>> Yes, I almost missed a flight already because the US and EU don’t even think about aligning their “daylight savings” [NOT!] times.
>>>> 
>>>> Good that at least the EU is getting rid of this satire [2] turned into law, in 2021 [1].
>>>> 
>>>> Grüße, Carsten
>>>> 
>>>> [1]: https://www.dw.com/en/eu-parliament-votes-to-end-daylight-savings/a-48064185
>>>> [2]: https://www.dw.com/en/summertime-what-a-joke/a-45302669
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