Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security
"Don Sturek" <d.sturek@att.net> Thu, 11 June 2009 12:46 UTC
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From: Don Sturek <d.sturek@att.net>
To: 'Carsten Bormann' <cabo@tzi.org>, 'Brian Frank' <brian.tridium@gmail.com>
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Cc: 'Hamid Mukhtar' <hamid@etri.re.kr>, 6lowpan@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security
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Hi Carsten, I am not so sure the CAP I-D is the best starting point. CAP is based on ZigBee service discovery which assumes statically held service information and a compact set of query primitives each device can use to determine compatible application services. In a later thread, there was mention of a variation of HTTP using binary encoding (mapped to XML I would presume) and running over UDP. This would seem to be an elegant start to a service discovery protocol for 6LowPAN devices. It would be nice as well to have a caching scheme so sleepy devices could contribute their service information and make it visible without needing to be awake all the time to do so. Other alternatives could include using another tokenized XML solution like W3C EXI, OBiX, etc with some type of caching solution like those supported in SLP or SDDP. I think this really does not below in 6LowPAN though. Perhaps we could ask for formation of a group in in the Application area to address? Best Regards, Don Sturek -----Original Message----- From: 6lowpan-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:6lowpan-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carsten Bormann Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:56 PM To: Brian Frank Cc: Hamid Mukhtar; 6lowpan@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security On Jun 11, 2009, at 03:15, Brian Frank wrote: > However, I am not sure SNMP is the best starting point. Now, what *is* the best starting point? One interesting submission we haven't spent much time looking at is: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tolle-cap-00 Gruesse, Carsten _______________________________________________ 6lowpan mailing list 6lowpan@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6lowpan
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- [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Richard Kelsey
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notification for … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Rene Struik
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Rene Struik
- Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notification for … Richard Kelsey
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Richard Kelsey
- Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notification for … Carsten Bormann
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- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Robert Cragie
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Burnett, Peter
- Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notificationfor d… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notification for … Richard Kelsey
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- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Brian Frank
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- Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notification for … Carsten Bormann
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- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Hamid Mukhtar
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Hamid Mukhtar
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Hamid Mukhtar
- [6lowpan] SNMP for (was: ND and MAC-level securit… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Carsten Bormann
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- Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notification for … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Hamid Mukhtar
- Re: [6lowpan] MIB and SNMP (was: ND and MAC-level… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [6lowpan] MIB and SNMP (was: ND and MAC-level… Hamid Mukhtar
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Brian Frank
- Re: [6lowpan] MIB and SNMP (was: ND and MAC-level… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Zach Shelby
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Don Sturek
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Don Sturek
- Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notificationfor d… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
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- Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notificationfor d… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notificationfor d… Zach Shelby
- Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notification for … Zach Shelby
- Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notification for … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notification for … Carsten Bormann
- Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notification for … Alexandru Petrescu
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- Re: [6lowpan] [Fwd: New Version Notificationfor d… Jonathan Hui
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- Re: [6lowpan] Stateless or Stateful? (was: [Fwd: … Jonathan Hui
- Re: [6lowpan] (16-bit addresses are not globally … Rene Struik
- Re: [6lowpan] Wrap-up on ND discussions Zach Shelby
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Joaquín Cabezas
- Re: [6lowpan] MIB and SNMP (was: ND and MAC-level… Ki-Hyung Kim (김기형)
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- Re: [6lowpan] MIB and SNMP (was: ND and MAC-level… Ki-Hyung Kim (김기형)
- Re: [6lowpan] (16-bit addresses are not globally … Kris Pister
- Re: [6lowpan] (16-bit addresses are not globally … Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6lowpan] (16-bit addresses are not globally … Kris Pister
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Hamid Mukhtar
- Re: [6lowpan] ND and MAC-level security Brian Frank