Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-coapie-01.txt
"Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com> Tue, 21 July 2015 22:12 UTC
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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
To: Qin Wang <qinwang6top@yahoo.com>, Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi>, Pat Kinney <pat.kinney@KINNEYCONSULTINGLLC.COM>
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Subject: Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-coapie-01.txt
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I wondered the same, Qin. Pat will know better ☺ Pascal From: Qin Wang [mailto:qinwang6top@yahoo.com] Sent: mardi 21 juillet 2015 21:44 To: Tero Kivinen Cc: 6tisch@ietf.org; Pascal Thubert (pthubert); Thomas Watteyne Subject: Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-coapie-01.txt Tero, Many thanks for the information. Pascal, regarding to the group ID of payload IE, where we are? Have we submitted some kind of request to IEEE802.15.4 WG as described in the section 13.4, https://mentor.ieee.org/802.15/dcn/10/15-10-0235-15-0000-802-15-operations-manual.docx? Have we got some answer? I may missed something. Thanks Qin On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 12:36 AM, Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi<mailto:kivinen@iki.fi>> wrote: Qin Wang writes: > Before going to 802.15.9, I would like to discuss more about the > coapie approach. In the 802.15.4e, the range (0x2-0x9) of group ID > for payload IE is unmanaged. Not anymore. Now allocations are handled by IEEE 802.15 WPAN Assigned Numbers Authority (ANA), and it has all of them marked as reserved: Element ID Assigned to Assigned by ID (decimal) 0 Encapsulated Service 802.15.4e-2012 0 Data Unit (ESDU) 1 MLME (nested) 802.15.4e-2012 1 2 Vendor specific 802.15.4-corr1 2 3 Multiplexed (MP) IE 802.15.9 3 4 Omnibus Payload Group IE Wi_SUN 4 5 Reserved 5 6 Reserved 6 7 Reserved 7 8 Reserved 8 9 Reserved 9 A Reserved 10 B Reserved 11 C Reserved 12 D Reserved 13 E Reserved 14 F List termination 802.15.4e-2012 15 This is from the Payload IE Group IDs tab from the https://mentor.ieee.org/802.15/dcn/13/15-13-0257-06-0000-802-15-4-ana-database.xlsx document. Link to the latest ANA database should be found from the http://www.ieee802.org/15/ANA.html page (hmm... it seems to have link to -05 revision, need to send request to fix that). If you read the ANA rules (in that page, or from the IEEE 802.15 Working Group Operations Manual https://mentor.ieee.org/802.15/dcn/10/15-10-0235-15-0000-802-15-operations-manual.docx) you will notice that yes, IETF might request to get one payload IE number to be shared for all IETF protocols. Of course you could also use Vendor specific IE, which starts with 3-octet vendor OUI, and then rest of it free for vendor specific use. > I thought IEEE802.15.4 WG had discussed how to use those Group ID, > and also taken the requirement from 6tisch into consideration, and > IEEE802.15.4 WG will assign a group ID to 6tisch. Am I wrong? The numbers are now allocated by ANA, but as there is already vendor specific IE, and the 802.15.9 multiplexed IE which would most likely work fine for 6tisch, I am not sure whether ANA would approve such request. -- kivinen@iki.fi<mailto:kivinen@iki.fi>
- [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-coapie… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Qin Wang
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Qin Wang
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Paul Duffy
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Pat Kinney
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Qin Wang
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Thomas Watteyne
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Thomas Watteyne
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Alexander Pelov
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Tero Kivinen