Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-coapie-01.txt
Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi> Wed, 22 July 2015 09:12 UTC
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From: Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi>
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Subject: Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-coapie-01.txt
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Pat Kinney writes: > As you know from subclause 13.4 of IEEE 802.15 WG’s Operation > Manual, IEEE 802.15 WG needs a letter (or email attachment) from an > IETF authority that could enforce the assurances necessary for the > release of ID number assignment (s) from IEEE 802.15. I was thinking > that IANA could be that authority. I can expedite the request within > IEEE 802.15’s ANA once we receive that letter. If my reading is right then there will be one assignment for the whole IETF, so we most likely would like to make RFC to specify how it is splitted for different IETF protocols. I do not think COAP is the only one in IETF who will ever want to use 802.15.4 payload IE. Most likely adding one byte at the start of payload IE would be enough as multiplexer for the rest of the payload... On the other hand as I already told that 802.15.9 already does that and even more, and the multiplex id there is 16-bit so getting numbers from there is easier, and getting one number for CoAP would be no problem etc. Btw, the overhead of 802.15.9 is as follows: If frame fits in one 802.15.4 frame 1+2 = 3 octets (1 for MP IE control, and 2 for ethertype). If it does not fit in one frame, and needs to be fragmented, then the overhead will be 1+1+2+2 = 6 octets (1 for MP IE control, 1 for fragment number, 2 for total payload length, and 2 for ethertype) for the first frament and 1+1 = 2 octets (MP IE control, fragment number) for rest of fragments. In addition to that there is of course MAC header, Header IE termination IE, and Payload IE header overhead for each fragment. -- kivinen@iki.fi
- [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-coapie… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Qin Wang
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Qin Wang
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Paul Duffy
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Pat Kinney
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Qin Wang
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Thomas Watteyne
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Thomas Watteyne
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Alexander Pelov
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [6tisch] Comment to draft-wang-6tisch-6top-co… Tero Kivinen