Re: [72attendees] In-room network
Jeffrey Hutzelman <jhutz@cmu.edu> Tue, 29 July 2008 16:13 UTC
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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:29:40 +0100
From: Jeffrey Hutzelman <jhutz@cmu.edu>
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--On Monday, July 28, 2008 08:14:03 PM -0400 Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com> wrote: > Tonight from my room, I get connection failures for AIM, but jabber, ssh, > http, etc., all work fine. It sounds like port blockage to me. Really? Have you collected any data that shows that your packets are not getting through? Or are you simply assuming that if it doesn't work, it must be because the port is blocked? Someone noted earlier that the hotel's NAT seems to be allocating a different outside IP address for each outgoing "connection" (which, for UDP, often means each packet). There are certainly a lot of UDP-based protocols that that will break, if it's true (I'm not entirely convinced, because I run things that it _should_ break pretty badly but that seem to work fine). FWIW, I've also noticed AIM breaking from behind other NAT's lately, which may indicate the protocol is NAT-unfriendly in some way. That would be news to me, but then, it's not a protocol I use often, and I avoid NAT's when I can. Of course, it's also possible that some people's VPN connections are breaking because they expect to use a particular port, either for tunneled traffic or for IKE, or because they expect to use a protocol for which the NAT cannot multiplex multiple connections. Those of us who've done this a few times presumably know about these pitfalls by now, but there will always be someone who's never encountered the problem before. I would suggest that if folks are having problems getting particular protocols to work, that they collect as much data as possible about what is going on and then report the problem to the hotel. Maybe one of the NOC folks can give us an idea of what sorts of data are most useful. -- Jeff _______________________________________________ 72attendees mailing list 72attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/72attendees
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- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Theo Zourzouvillys
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Claudia Galvan
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Arnoud van Wijk
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Jari Arkko
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Dale Worley
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Ben Campbell
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Abhijit Choudhury (achoudhu)
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Alexander Mayrhofer
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Vint Cerf
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Tony Hansen
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Antoin Verschuren
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Vint Cerf
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Vint Cerf
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Richard Pruss
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network LANGE Andrew
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Ted Lemon
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Randall Gellens
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Jihoon Lee
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Janet P Gunn
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Marc Blanchet
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Randall Gellens
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Randall Gellens
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Tony Hansen
- Re: [72attendees] In-room network Thomas Walsh