[77attendees] Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on content providers
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Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on content providers Day: Tuesday March 23 Time: 17:30 Room: TBD Inspired by some remarks of Lorenzo Colitti (Google) at the recent APRICOT/APNIC meeting in Kuala Lumpur, we plan to discuss the value of a short draft aimed *specifically* at content providers, to describe the impact on them and their customers if many of those customers are trapped behind double IPv4 NAT (NAT444). Clearly the issues are not news, but they tend to be described in complex general drafts, or mixed in with proposed solutions or alternatives to double NAT. Quoting Lorenzo: "...it would be good to put together an IETF draft that very concisely lists the problems of NAT444 from the content provider perspective. For example: worse geolocation for targeted advertising and streaming content restrictions; higher latency; IP blocking for abuse/spam causing collateral damage, etc." (Also see http://www.isoc.org/educpillar/resources/docs/ipv6_200905.pdf) The bar BOF agenda is to decide whether to proceed with such a draft and if so, to identify the people who will write it and the target date. Highly relevant existing documents include: draft-ford-shared-addressing-issues-02.txt draft-azinger-additional-private-ipv4-space-issues-03.txt Drafts that touch on the topic in one way or another include: draft-nishitani-cgn-04.txt draft-shirasaki-nat444-01.txt draft-shirasaki-nat444-isp-shared-addr-03.txt draft-shirasaki-isp-shared-addr-04.txt draft-davies-reusable-ipv4-address-block-00.txt draft-boucadair-port-range-02.txt draft-ymbk-aplusp-05.txt draft-thaler-port-restricted-ip-issues-00.txt Brian Carpenter (whose only commitment is to make the bar BOF happen)
- [77attendees] Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on conten… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [77attendees] Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on co… Mark Andrews
- Re: [77attendees] Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on co… Simon Perreault
- Re: [77attendees] Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on co… Dan Wing
- Re: [77attendees] Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on co… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [77attendees] Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on co… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [77attendees] Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on co… Chris Morrow
- Re: [77attendees] Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on co… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [77attendees] Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on co… Chris Morrow
- Re: [77attendees] Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on co… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [77attendees] Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on co… Matthew Ford
- Re: [77attendees] Bar BOF: Impact of NAT444 on co… Brian E Carpenter